“You asked, we built it” = “Your data is profitable, so we slapped AI on it and feign altruism”.
This is mostly useless to me; I already enforce all tabs into unique containers to isolate browsing and website contexts from one another; while still allowing me to make exceptions to the rule and “unbreak” things if that’s causing an issue, but still keeping things isolated from the rest of the browsing.
As for Tab Management; I use two windows and a plugin; Tab Stash Plus; which collapses tabs I stash into a bookmark.
Every so often when I reach a critical mass of tabs I personally go through them and play “Keep/Toss” with more odds on Toss. Only useful tabs get stashed and are then searchable from the plugin.
In general; since this feature now presents a possibility of an extremely UNWANTED AI integration I will be setting the config to off and leaving it off…using a relevant config policy tool or plugin to enforce this to off if needed. I hate AI features that I didn’t ask for and this one definitely doesn’t seem like it’s going to be helpful nor compatible with my current workflow.
I feel like this feature is a good idea that has come too late for me. I already “group” stuff via windows. That’ll be a hard habit to break.
I miss Panorama so much!
Do you use an add-on to prevent that from wiping out all but one window’s worth of tabs when you close them? That’s what originally made me get a tab grouping addon, after losing a ton of tabs when I broke some out into their own window and then later closed the main tab window before the secondary one. Realized immediately what happened but it was already too late to save that entire generation of precious tabs. Who knows what articles I didn’t feel like reading at the time but was totally going to read later I lost forever.
I either let the OS close firefox and then it opens all windows when I next start firefox. Or I use ctrl+shift+n to reopen the last closed window
I close all windows at once via the Quit feature, then it re-opens all of them. You can trigger that from the menubar (press Alt to unhide it) in the “File” menu at the bottom.
You can also re-open a closed window from the “History” menu in that menubar.These might also be available in the hamburger menu. I’ve got that hidden, so can’t check easily…
Ctrl+Q terminates the whole program at once and you don’t lose any windows.
Oh btw, just like Ctrl+shift+t reopens closed tabs, so Ctrl+shift+n reopens whole windows, with all tabs.
Interesting, though you can also just keep pressing Ctrl+Shift+T and it’ll eventually restore entire windows in the reverse order of closure, whether tab or window.
Been loving the feature.
My next hope is that they’ll upgrade tab groups so (when collapsed) I can move them around like normal tabs. Right now it’s a little awkward if I start the group in the wrong spot.
Awesome!
Can you now please make it so that of I have over 100 tabs open that Firefox makes my computer die, even if all those tabs are all pre-killed by a tab closer?
Been using it for a couple of months now at work. It’s good.
I also appreciate how intuitively it works. I wasn’t aware of this feature when it first landed in developer edition, but after I accidentally created a group with drag and drop, the feature just clicked.
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Vivaldi: laughing in 2019
Firefox laughing in 2004 with anything else…
You mean laughing in before COVID
Opera had it before they dropped presto back in like 2013.
To be fair, the current Vivaldi team consists of a lot of the ones that made Opera Presto.
Interesting… So Vivaldi is like Opera 2.0?
It’s a spiritual successor, yes.
I am on Vivaldi now but after manifest v3? I’m very happy to see tab
stackinggrouping come to Firefox based browsers as that’s definitely the escape plan, possibly very soon.
*here again. Let’s see how long it takes them this time to remove it again.
Hoping someone might be able to help me out with this info, I’ve tried looking and can’t find a solid answer.
When you use the “Save and close group” feature of tab groups, do they
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Stay forever, no matter if you close Firefox, restart your pc, not used that group in months etc.
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Allow an unlimited, or at least a high number, of saved and closed tab groups.
I mainly ask because it specifically puts closed and saved tab groups in a section called “recent tab groups” which sounds suspiciously temporary.
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smash
Now, the team is experimenting with smart tab groups, a new AI-powered feature that suggests names and groups based on the tabs you have open.
Off course, they found a way to integrate more Ai features.
Because you know it’s really hard naming your group yourself
ffs. Of course they had to slap AI on top of it. Goddammit.
Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if the inclusion of some small AI feature is what justified the rest of this work being done. As in, someone got approval for tab groups only because they were smart enough to describe it as “AI powered tab groups“. Just speculation
Me using the Tiled Tab groups add-on for 2 years now… Good-morning
Was I signed up for some beta? I’ve had firefox groups for a few weeks now.
And holy shit do I need em.
They do A/B testing for everything now. Why? No clue.
A/B testing a very effective mass testing ground, I’m surprised some people don’t do it. Amazon is probably doing a few dozen a/b tests constsntly
I’ve been using them for a few weeks now. Lifesaver as I try to organize stupid bullshit that life forces on me.
