I figured as much. It was too coherent for a long sentence to be dementia donald.
Sounded too eloquent for Trump.
The “shall” was a dead giveaway. And nothing was RANDOMLY CAPITALIZED!!!
Who the fuck could ever believe trump could string together a statement like that? The guy is mentally defective.
MAGA.
Yeah that Hitler dude was a pretty clever cat compared to Trump.
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Well lets be honest Trump can’t form sentences that are this coherent. Yet people still somehow dig it. I understand the appeal of a charismatic leader with a strong rhetoric but Trump? Come on guys.
The turd messiah
I think a lot of people aren’t that coherent. They also just kind of wander from emotion to emotion, so Trump talks like they think.
everything he says is laundered and repackaged through an army of spin doctors to make it seem more convincing and articulate.
Hitler had Goebbels. one guy. with the rise of for profit, 24/7, ubiquitous social media, there’s now 10,000 Goebbels with their own podcast or content channel.
and because these apologists and sane-washers get paid by tech companies (in advertising/ clicks) they have incentives to keep churning it out without any direct orders from a central authority - “Smash that subscribe button!, we got weekly hot takes on what glorious leader actually meant when he said ‘death to my enemies!’”
Omg, I thought those sentences were a little different from how he spoke, but I believed it.
I was about to say, too well articulated for Trump. Almost had me.
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I thought he was using GPT 2?
Hitler was a very good public speaker. Let’s give credit where credit is due.
Trump on the other hand… Is not.
The current trend in this comments section is full of praise for fucking Hitler for being better than Trump. And if there ever was a better reason to remove Trump from office I haven’t seen it.
Absolute insanity. This time line is so fucked.
Trump is a great public speaker if you consider who his audience is.
Ehhhh it’s unfortunate that you’re absolutely correct.
Yeah I knew it was a lie after line 3, Trump doesn’t speak that well.
That’s what’s so disappointing about the current fascist regime. I never doubted that fascism in America would be possible. I looked at Germany and Italy in the 1930s and thought:
“Yeah, I suppose if there’s a powerful public speaker who is able to project strength, that could work. Even though by now everything Nazi is associated with evil, I can still appreciate how they were really good at “set design” to show the appearance of competence and power.”
What I didn’t expect is that all the appearance of intelligence, competence and organization was all optional. Trump is clearly stupid, his lies are beyond obvious, his people are clearly not competent. His rallies don’t project strength. Instead of brownshirts in uniforms lined up in an orderly way, Trump has a chaotic gaggle of fat and/or old people wearing mismatched random American-flag based gear in a puddle near him. How is it that this is what Americans are falling for?
I don’t know about that. Seems like a lot of people like to hear Trump’s speeches. Then and now, there is but one constant: human stupidity in its sheer endlessness.
Hitler was a very good public speaker.
Compared to Trump, sure. But no credit is due.
He was a very good mass murderer, if you feel the need to credit him with something.
Yes, it’s clear a person doesn’t need to be a good speaker to rile up people who want a free ticket to hate. I’d have agreed Hitler was a good speaker before Trump, but now I think we just assumed that was the case because we couldn’t fathom so many people being behind a bad one.
Hitler actually put a great deal of work and practice time into becoming a good public speaker. Can you imagine Trump putting that kind of effort into anything? Even golf?
The man does like golf though…
He certainly puts in the time. Effort though, that’s debatable. Effort in cheating perhaps.
I mean look at the rest. Isn’t it one of the baffling things about our times how easy it is to appeal to the masses with obviously idiotic takes. Maybe it’s nothing new.
Also I’m sure Hitler didn’t write his speeches.
He doesn’t even write his tweets, let alone his speeches.
Whether or not Hitler wrote his own speeches, at least he delivered them in a charismatic and competent way.
Trump just ad-libs nonsense.
Trump could never speak that well. And what was Hitler doing arresting Wisconsin judges?
Trump’s worldview is very similar to Hitler’s in many ways. The core similarity is that they both thought/think of everything in international relations as zero-sum.
There’s a lot to it that can’t be compressed into a readable Lemmy comment, but it’s pretty easy to find material.
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A key difference: Hitler survived on battlefields where he could die a horrible death. Trump lacks the suffering and hardship required to understand what is at stake if he plays the fascist game badly. I think that is going to be a major reason in why Fascist America would lose in the long run, since it doesn’t value competency in any respect. Even the Nazis had some competencies, despite being evil dickheads.
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I am not. What I am saying is that he has experience with bloodshed, and the knowledge he could be a corpse if he played the wrong cards. Trump doesn’t understand consequences, because he has never truly risked anything.
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Both of them staged a failed insurrection as well.
The problem with the judiciary is that it never really had any teeth. It was just there to protect rich people and give the appearance of checks and balances. I mean, we keep impeaching these presidents, but I never see anything happen. And now Trump, supposedly a felon, is now the president. Also, I’m old enough to know that the quality of President continues to diminish, and I think that’s a reflection of our society as a whole. People are getting dumber and they are not capable of discerning a good speaker who thinks rationally versus somebody who is just impulsive, reactionary and just tells them what they want to hear. Like I know if I’m completely left to my own devices I’m gonna make stupid mistakes. That’s why I like laws and justified hierarchies. in more of a lateral and less hierarchical structure. I also emphasize the importance of clear communication because most of the world’s problems and conflicts are based upon people who know very little. And that’s why they’re used as dildos for the state… But at the same time as a libertarian socialist i think we, the people, need more liberty. And capitalism does not provide us with this. Also. What is free will, really? Relative to the hierarchy, the natural hierarchy, we are all bound by laws. Despite all my rage, I am still a rat in a cage. Sorry for my navel gazing. I was just thinking out loud.
Too obvious, Trump doesn’t speak that well.
It’s a bit sudden. Has he started evicting judges from office yet?
Yes.
I have to admit I was fooled, even though I"m sure Trump doesn’t know a word as big as evidently
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I wouldn’t assume he even knows “shall.”
I’m not sure he can get “nation” out
Do you have a source for that I can show other people?
Here’s the snopes article with background on Hitler’s quote (apparently there a snopes article because some people posted this without the “just kidding” part.
Thank you. That’s got some interesting further context too.
Hitler delivered the speech in front of the Reichstag… right around the middle of World War II
So it’s not in the lead up when Hitler ‘might’ have appeared good to more people: the way people often compare Trump these days.
I myself am justified to refuse because since 1933 I have not taken three days’ leave — a fact which is probably not known to these individuals.
Sounds just like what Trump might boast! Or how Musk justifies that people should work long hours!
they are here for the nation, that is, the world, which includes Germany, must not decline in order that formal law may live, but Germany must live, irrespective of the contradictions of formal justice.
(Emphasis mine.) That’s the worrying similarity that stood out to me most.
Good.
No one is above the law, even a judge.
The context is that judges are being removed so the people in power, like Hitler or Trump, can be above the law.
