Hi all,

The quick and dirty questions is: Which distro should I try next?

I tried Debian X11 and Fedora with Wayland, but I did not have a great experience with them for my Lenovo Legion 5 Pro RTX3060. I installed proprietary drivers on both systems since people say that they’re better than Nouveau, but the framerate stutters even in simple browser game.

I use some software to slice 3d models for printing, and that one stuttered too. I tried various fixes but none of them worked, and I’d really like to switch to Linux from Microsoft for my daily driver.

What distro can I use to have a better experience? Any advice is welcome, but please make it as specific as possible and if you can, address why that distro would be better than Debian 12 and Fedora 42.

Thanks in advance!

  • glitching@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    a distribution is just an assortment of packages, it’s the same linux + driver underneath. nvidia on linux is a headache. are there people who made it work? sure. is that a worthwhile waste of your time? it is not.

    get hardware that’s linux supported and you’ll have plenty of challenges during the transition, you don’t need the additional “self destruction in…” countdown timer booming from the speakers.

    if you still wanna have at it, pop_os (however it’s spelt), bazzite and nobara are some od the distros that have dedicated nvidia install images and are thusly more likely to work OOB and work better afterwards.

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      are there people who made it work? sure.

      For some historical context, Nvidia has had premium Linux support since 2006. For the longest time it was the only option for any kind of hardware accelerated 3D graphics on Linux and it generally worked pretty well.

      Thankfully, AMD made the open-source side of graphics on Linux work also recently. At least for two years, AMD has been entirely trouble-free on Linux. To my knowledge, Nouveau is not quite there yet.

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    1 month ago

    I have a desktop which has / had a similar problem.

    Originally I built it with a g-series Ryzen which has integrated Radeon Vega graphics. Upgraded to a 3060 and wanted to run Linux for gaming instead of windows.

    I couldn’t get a distro to reliably use my graphics card without the issues you describe. Stuttering, crashing, generally unusable.

    Garuda was the answer (to be fair I’d try Bazzite too but I just didn’t get there as Garuda worked). In fact, it worked out of the box for me and I enjoyed it so much I made it my work OS.

    I like the GUI utilities they’ve made for front-ending a bunch of Arch CLI utilities and I’ve been saved by BTRFS snapshots more than once.

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    1 month ago

    My choice is Arch Linux purely because it’s bleeding edge

    I’ve no idea if Arch actually has newer drivers than Debian / Fedora, but if they are you’ll (usually) get better support from the developers of whatever application / package - or in your case - drivers that you’re facing.

    It’s more involved than “just” installing Debian, etc… but reading through the Arch Linux wiki as you install will (should) ensure you’ve got the correct drivers setup and you’ll know why they’re working.

    So… it’ll be more effort, but you might get “better” results.

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      I’ve no idea if Arch actually has newer drivers than Debian / Fedora

      Kinda, since Arch has nvidia’s own drivers in their extra repo, whereas in Fedora you’ll have to do some stuff to get them.

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    It’s not your fault because with nvidia gpu you have to add env variables to tell your pc that use nvidia prime, no matter what distro you use you have to configure env varibales, although I’ll suggest you openSUSE-Tumbleweed and I was going to suggest you Fedora but you had problems so it’s ok.

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    That’s odd, I remember using Debian 12 without this issue when it was released, I later switched to an Arch based distro (Endeavour OS) to experiment with how it would run games (they ran better, I think some games were freezing on Debian 12 stable).

    I can’t say anything about Fedora, never used it.

    Do you have more information about the specific driver you installed on Debian 12 and Fedora 42? Like the version number? Maybe the neofetch result of your computer specs too.

    Sorry for not being able to give more details.

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      Thanks for your answer! I had 535 installed on Debian 12 and 570 on Fedora 42. This is the result of fastfetch (neofetch is EOL). Let me know if you need any more info or if you think you have something that might help. Thanks!

      System Details:

      • OS: Fedora Linux 42 (Workstation Edition)

      • Host: Lenovo Legion 5 Pro 16ACH (82JQ)

      • Kernel: Linux 6.14.5-300.fc42.x86_64

      • Uptime: 30 mins

      • Locale: en_GB.UTF-8

      Hardware:

      • CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800H (16) @ 4.46 GHz

      • GPU 1: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Mobile

      • GPU 2: AMD Radeon Vega Series

      • Memory: 4.30 GiB / 27.25 GiB (16%)

      • Swap: 0 B / 8.00 GiB (0%)

      • Disk (/): 23.09 GiB / 243.14 GiB (9%)

      • Display: 2560x1600 @ 60 Hz

      • Battery: 60% [AC Connected]

      Software Environment:

      • DE: GNOME 48.1

      • WM: Mutter (Wayland)

      • Theme: Adwaita

      • Packages: 2490 (rpm), 12 (flatpak)

      • Shell: bash 5.2.37

      • Terminal: Ptyxis 48.1

      • Network: 192.168.2.14/24 (wlp4s0)

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    I have non pro version and I disabled the iGPU in BIOS it worked on ubuntu but battery was nonexistent.

    Recently I switched on the iGPU. Now I tried various distros and Arch and Bazzite worked out of the box.

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    1 month ago

    This could be an issue where the AMD GPU is only being used. I, like some of the others would suggest Linux Mint.

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    1 month ago

    Did you make sure that Nouveau was not loading? If both drivers are on the system, Nouveau usually ends up taking precedence unless it’s been blacklisted. Also, if this is a laptop type with a hybrid graphics setup, you may need additional software to manage the handoff between GPUs (optimus, bumblebee, etc.)

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      I’ve done some more digging and indeed, the AMD integrated GPU is being used. Optimus seems like a good option, but then apparently I’d have to use x11 as the desktop renderer because Wayland doesn’t play nice with nvidia.

      As far as I can see, x11 will be deprecated not too long from now?

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        Wayland’s nvidia support is improving over time, but although it’s becoming less popular, X11 isn’t likely to be completely deprecated anytime soon—I’d expect any mainstream distro to still at least have it as an option a couple of years from now, to handle corner cases Wayland still doesn’t support.

        The last X11 stable version bump on my distro was about a month ago, to 21.1.16, so it isn’t like it’s abandonware or anything.

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          Oh, that’s good to know. So I can just install x11 on my Fedora no problem whatsoever?

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            Provided Fedora has the appropriate packages (and I expect they do), I can’t see why not. But see if there’s any distro-specific documentation on switching first.

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        1 month ago

        OP, as someone who has a very similarly specced laptop:

        Install Linux Mint, do a one click install of the Nvidia driver with the mint GUI driver installer, and then open the application that’s stuttering from your start menu by right clicking on it, and select ‘run with discrete GPU’, which will force it to use your Nvidia card.

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        Mark my words, X11 will still be around as an option 10 years from now.
        Linux Mint, probably the most popular distro, doesn’t even support Wayland in its default configuration, yet.

  • 🧟‍♂️ Cadaver@lemmy.world
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    Okay, I had the same problem with a 3060 laptop. The easy answer is : your next distro should be Nobara.

    These errors happen because your computer does not use your Nvidia GPU but the AMD one. There is no hardware acceleration.

    In Nobara, everything comes preinstalled and preconfigured. I didn’t have those problems anymore.

    (If you fancy masochism, you can also go the Arch or NixOS way)

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    Give Linux Mint a spin, I seriously doubt there’s a friendlier distribution for newcomers from Windows.

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        Not directly, I’m just giving OP the answer they wanted:

        The quick and dirty questions is: Which distro should I try next?

            • pirat [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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              1 month ago

              isn’t mint based off of Ubuntu which is based off of debian?

              If the GPU / distro is the root cause of their game issues wouldn’t Mint be similar?

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                That’s not how it works. Ubuntu adds layers of hardware support and software tweaks on top of its Debian base. Same goes for Mint on top of Ubuntu.

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            Mint has access to newer nvidia drivers than mint, and Cinnamon let’s you open programs with exclusively the Nvidia GPU instead of integrated graphics from the start menu.

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    1 month ago

    Check the lenovo legión discord server, there is a linux channel and they can help you better than here probably

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    Try Ubuntu, it has a user friendly GUI for installing Nvidia and other 3 parts drivers.

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    My spouse has a laptop from Asus with VERY similar Specs (but an RTX 3050ti instead of a 3060) and so far Linux Mint has been a pretty trouble -free experience with ONE condition:

    I set it to use the dedicated nvidia gpu 24/7 as opposed to the integrated AMD gpu. I forgot what exactly was happening but if memory serves it was disrupting something, I think recovering from closing the lid?

    After doing that we’ve never had an issue again. They mostly use at their desk plugged in, sp the power usage isn’t much a concern.

    Hope this helps!

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        I don’t remember it being particularly difficult, I’m a bit of a linux newb myself, but I’d be lying if I said I remember which steps I took off the top of my head.

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    It’s still Fedora under the hood, but Nobara has a pile of graphics tweaks to enable video editing and gaming, by the developer of the Proton layer that Valve uses for Steam. It’s optimized for high end graphics and nVidia cards.