Pakistan has claimed it used Chinese-made J-10C fighter jets against India’s air force in a brief military encounter on Wednesday.
Pakistani Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and the country’s military said five Indian aircraft had been shot down in the latest armed conflict over Kashmir and other disputed regions along the South Asian neighbours’ border.
Ishaq Dar, Pakistan’s foreign minister, separately told parliament that it was J-10C jets that shot down the Indian warplanes, with the five including three Rafale fighter jets.
“Our jet fighters … shot down Indian Rafales, three Rafales [that] are French,” said Dar. “Ours were J-10C. All of these are jet fighters in collaboration with China.”
“If confirmed, it would be the Chinese fighter jet’s first known air-to-air kill recorded in live combat. It would also mark the first loss of Rafale aircraft in combat.
Imperialist war industry in shambles 
Wait, Rafale was downed by a Chinese Rafale?
Lmao, that is even more stingy.
Wonder what the factors were (logistics/support, sensor, better missiles, crew preparedness, unwise political/strategic choices/decisions, …)
I don’t think so, the Indian operated (French made) Rafale were shot down by the Pakistani operated (Chinese made) J10CE
Yes, I was (overly simplistic for comedic effect) calling the J10 a ‘Chinese Rafale’ (you know, same conard config, both being about 3rd-ish gen multipractic appliances).