Occupied Palestine (Quds News Network)- A new poll has revealed alarming support among Israeli Jews for the ethnic cleansing in Gaza. The survey, published Thursday in Haaretz, shows that 82% of Jewish Israelis back the idea of expelling native Palestinians from the strip.
The poll was conducted in March by one of the researchers on behalf of Penn State University. It surveyed 1,005 Jewish respondents across Israel.
Support for forced expulsions has spiked. 82% support expelling all Palestinians from Gaza. Over half—56%—also back expelling Native Palestinians who are citizens of Israel. In 2003, support for these views was lower at 45% and 31%, respectively.
The trend is strongest among younger generations. Among Jewish Israelis under 40, 66% support expelling native Palestinian citizens, and 58% support repeating the Jericho conquest. Only 9% of men under 40—those most likely to serve in the army—rejected all notions of expulsion or genocide.
A society can function only when the state of exception is applied appropriately and if there are punishments when there is overstepping,.
Israelis are conditioned into thinking that there are only the former and none of the latter.
and they are proven right
Sometimes you see a headline like this and you just have to stop for a moment and reflect on how mindboggling it is that genocidality could become so popular in a society. The fact is of course that this is the character of every genocide in history: genocides only happen if most people in a society passively or actively accept them. But when oneself is so far removed from that cultural context that enables this most horrible of crimes to happen, it becomes difficult to even fathom how a society could end up in a situation where one could meet ten people in the dominant group and find that nine of them want the marginalized group — largely children no less! — reduced to bags of nondescript red mush. Even the tenth person is probably still incredibly racist and a tacit supporter of genocide, just not an active supporter of it.
It feels cliché to mention how Zionist settlers are themselves to a pretty large extent descended from the survivors of pogroms and one of the worst genocides in human history, because the apparent irony of that is just not what makes the genocidality of so-called “Jewish” “Israelis” so horrifying, revolting, and tragic. People are not their great-grandparents, and Zionists, although they use Jewish aesthetics, are still a product of the cultural climate of Anglo settlerism and German volkism more than they are a product of anything Jewish. The Zionist settlers are, in a word, “not Jews”.
No, this is a human matter, not an ethnoreligious one. It’s a matter of me expecting to be able to look a member of my own species in the eyes and see a soul capable of empathy; all human beings are after all cousins if you go back far enough, and I would gladly welcome anyone as my own family. So even if people’s actions hurt others, I like to believe that people are largely just misguided and could be set on a better path, that people simply mean well but don’t always know how to do well.
But Zionists, in the way they talk, in the way they act, in the lack of any brightness in their eyes, there is just… no humanity left. Whatever humanity the Zionist settlers had was “left at the door” like shoes and coats when they decided to become settlers, and they’ll put their shoes and coats back on when the wretched, moribund system they benefit from finally collapses on them, which will be soon, God willing. And perhaps then, and only then, to paraphrase my own favorite ex-Zionist, ĉiu vidos en sia proksimulo nur homon kaj fraton.
It feels cliché to mention how Zionist settlers are themselves to a pretty large extent descended from the survivors of pogroms and one of the worst genocides in human history, because the apparent irony of that is just not what makes the genocidality of so-called “Jewish” “Israelis” so horrifying, revolting, and tragic. People are not their great-grandparents, and Zionists, although they use Jewish aesthetics, are still a product of the cultural climate of Anglo settlerism and German volkism more than they are a product of anything Jewish. The Zionist settlers are, in a word, “not Jews”.
“The oppressed want at any cost to resemble the oppressors.” (Paulo Freire, Pedagogy of the Opressed, 1968)
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More Antisemitism isn’t going to solve this. In fact that’s exactly what Israel wants so more Jews flee to Israel to join the colonist project.
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This will and have turned millions against Jewish people worldwide… Rightly so!
thats whats antisemitic
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you said “rightly so” implying that you think its cool and good that people are turning aganist the jewish people.
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You conflate Jews and Zionists and that’s antisemitic. By refering to Zionists as Jews you are doing exactly what the settler colonial entity of Israel wants, a way to legitimize them.
You can argue all you want about the semantics of who is or isn’t semitic, but that ignores how historically the word antisemitism have been used to talk specifically about hate for Jews.
Also, accusing someone who is correcting you of being pro genocide is disgusting, no one in this comment chain did this.
stop believing israel when it says it represents jews. not every jew is a zionist and vice versa. conflating the two is antisemitic
be angry at zionists thats more than fine, its just. But not at Jews, thats misplaced and racist.
DNA tests are literally banned in Israel because they are not semitic.
https://en.geneastar.org/genealogy/netanyahube/benjamin-netanyahu
Scroll down to ‘geographical origins’ and check the map. Be sure to check some other Israeli politicans too.
And yet companies in Israel is DNA testing people from all over the world, building a huge database of very private information about all people in the world…
I get what you’re trying to say, but this accepts the racists logic and argues that they are merely wrong on the facts. The idea that peoples DNA gives them a right to live in a certain area, or even can be tied to specific locations is racist in nature. There are no “semitic people” in a scientific sense, only in a biblical sense. Classifying modern people as “semitic” is only ever done in order to be anti-semitic.
The premise of the argument is that the land belongs to the people who have lived there for centuries. Not the people who have spontaneously appeared there without any connection or roots to it.
Maybe saying things like that would wake people the fuck up about the dangers of tying the zionist project to Judaism.
It is almost inevitable at this point, the rise of antisemitism. And the libs and especially the right have taken on the mantle of appearing as ‘Jewish’ advocates in appearance only, through their vocal support for Israel, forcibly alienating anyone who sees what’s happening. This hurts literally every Jewish person outside of Israel.
Increasing antisemitism benefits Zionism. They make the world unsafe for Jewish people so they all have to go live in Israel and fight for its existence, because it stops being safe to stay in their home countries as Jews. Zionists want to turn millions against Jewish people worldwide so they have to become Israelis. They don’t see any danger, it only benefits them.
Israel must be destroyed. From the river to the sea.
The more I read about humans, the less I identify with them.
Zionists aren’t human.
Trying to define political enemies as not human is literal Nazi shit, do better.
I ultimately agree with the premise, which is why under any other context I don’t focus on Zionists humanity, but their actions and ideology, but this was a quick, slightly snarky, reply to someone saying Zionists make him lose faith in humanity.
A better way to have phrased it would have been “Zionists don’t represent humanity”.
But also, I don’t think a negative comment online about the modern day Nazis being inhuman due to their ideology which denies basic human values is akin to the systemic dehumanization Nazis performed from a position of almost absolute power on innocent groups who weren’t conducting a heinous genocide.
Nazis dehumanized vulnerable groups in a genocidal effort. My words are specifically towards denouncing the followers of Zionist ideology for enaging in those same genocidal efforts.
Again, your intentions are absolutely valid but I don’t think the whole “this is literal Nazi shit, do better” is necessary and on some level actually lessens the harm of what Nazis actually did, similar to how my comment accidentally leaned into their rhetoric.
I can agree with “Zionists don’t represent humanity”.
I take your point that dehumanization by itself is a tiny part of what the Nazis did, it isn’t unique to them, and that the surrounding power dynamics are important. My comment was a “quick, slightly snarky” reply 😉
I do think that dehumanization is a dangerous tactic because, while it might have been a small part of the Nazi regime’s actions, it seems like it was crucial in order for them to get social & moral licence for a lot of the rest of their actions (as happened during the development of racism, and is now happening against migrants).
And, while recognizing that not every Zionist is Jewish, the amount of antisemitism that still exists (and the sad number of people who just swap out “jews” for “zionists” to get cover to keep pushing the same antisemitic conspiracy theories) does seem to add up to a bit of “vulnerability” as you put it, which seems to add to the danger of dehumanization.
The colonial situation dehumanizes the colonized and the colonizer. While the colonized are treated worse than animals, the colonizers treat themselves like gods (and, in the process, turn into monsters).
And the other 18% aren’t against it, they want a kinder version of it
“It´s unfortunate, but we have no other choice”
I want to believe this, but an article on a site I’ve never heard of which provides zero sources is not really enough to be trustworthy
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Maybe if the IOF/Israeli state stopped trying to genocide the Palestinians for the past 75 years, the Palestinians might stop launching bottle rockets at tanks and bunkers
This is your brain on colonialism.
Survey was 1005 people. I’d be interested to know how broad the demographics were.
Either way, disgusting.
Unless they’re asking the same thousand people every time, this is a good representation. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a single poll linked that doesn’t have similar numbers.
The way statistics work, 1000 people is more than adequate for a population the size of Israel. It’s honestly overkill, if anything. The real question is “are the respondents a representative sample?” That is, is the way you chose who to question and how to question them introducing any systemic bias in your results? For this survey, if everyone lived in the West Bank, that would be a clear source of bias in the data. But if people are randomly selected by, say, phone number, then you would have to worry about more subtle biases before agreeing that the data is sound.
Fucking sickening
Israel is just begging for the world to hate Jews right now; I don’t fucking get this shit we’re a huge portion of these people’s grandparents not Holocaust survivors?
antisemitism has been an important tool for the occupation regime of west palestine. it uses it to force migration to feed its frontier so it can expand and legitimise itself as a “the jewish homeland”. thats why they keep collaborating with fascists all the way back to, including, and even beyond the nazis.
Israel indoctrinates them from their youth that if they don’t kill all the Arabs that the Arabs will kill them.
Pretty similar how Hitler told the Germans that the Jews were trying to eradicate all the white people.
Raise a generation or two on non-stop propaganda and that’s what you get. From very young age they get taught in school that the whole world hates all Jews for no reason. Even allies are just pretending and should not be trusted.
Plus mandatory military service, both genders.
