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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml to news@hexbear.netEnglish · 9 months ago

Putin, for Ukraine peace, wants a pledge to halt NATO enlargement

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Putin, for Ukraine peace, wants a pledge to halt NATO enlargement

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  • buh [she/her, any]@hexbear.net
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    it’s never been more joever zelensky-pain

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    football-lucy

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    OH MY GOD JUST WIN THE FUCKIN WAR ALREADY, DAMN!!!

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      Attrition plays in Russia’s favor, and it greatly reduces potential with an open conflict with the west as well. The status quo is that NATO keeps feeding weapons into Ukraine at a faster rate than they can replace them which is leading to demilitarization of NATO itself now.

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        That’s a good point, the drain on NATO resources is a benefit to Russia as long as Russia is able to continue in a sustainable manner. Kind of the reverse outcome from the Western intention to set Ukraine up as another 1980s Afghanistan.

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          Indeed, and it’s also worth keeping in mind that the current state of the war benefits China as well since the US is unable to focus on Asia while stuck in Ukraine. Chinese support has been a big reason for why Russia is doing far better than the west economically right now.

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    So the same incredibly reasonable demand he’s had since before Russia’s entry into the war?

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      The same request Russia’s made since the dissolution of the USSR

      Pretty sure it has also been broken many times over the years

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        Well, before they seemed okay with it enlarging if they could be in it. But other than that, ya, what you said.

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    football-lucy

  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Cease your embiggenment

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    What are the probabilites of this pledge ending up like Minsk 1&2?

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      I can’t see Russia falling for that again after having invested so much in the war for the past three years. I expect that Russia plans to dictate terms to the west from a position of strength this time around.

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    reporting anythin putin says as a potential truth ; is itself propaganda

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      I see you are fully prepared to throw every last Ukrainian into the blender

    • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]@hexbear.net
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      Huh?

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        In this moment; he is euphoric

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      Bro really thought he was cookin a full-course meal with this point-and-laugh-2

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      Ah yes, the “my enemy is always lying about their demands” approach to negotiations. Clearly the side whose demands basically never change is the one who is bluffing.

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      So the only thing thats not propaganda is the riddle with the two guards where one always lies and one always says the truth?

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      behold peak liberal intellect in action

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      jesse-wtf

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      You know who else depicted Russia as an unreasoning, animalistic war horde incapable of honesty or diplomacy and led by a human incarnation of the untrustworthy Other? i-am-adolf-hitler

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