• I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org
        1·
        1 month ago

        It’s mainly a tool for working with matrices (matrix laboratory). This is useful for solving ordinary differential equations. Learning Matlab is usually a requirement for first year engineering students. I’m now a licensed chemical engineer, and I haven’t used Matlab since sophomore year.

  • Haus@kbin.earth
    25·
    1 month ago

    I think simply knowing what the “F” is means you’re old and a nerd.

  • expr@programming.dev
    44·
    1 month ago

    A real nerd would know that React is a library and HTML is a markup language, and neither are programming languages.

  • kn0wmad1c@programming.devEnglish
    284·
    1 month ago

    Most of these are scripting languages. Some are even markup languages. It’s like the meme creator didn’t even know what a programming language was.
    I hope someone got fired for that blunder

      • nyan@lemmy.cafeEnglish
        27·
        1 month ago

        Some people think that only compiled languages are true programming languages. (Needless to say, they’re wrong.)

        • frezik@midwest.social
          6·
          1 month ago

          Yeah, once you know all the details, the distinction disappears. The term doesn’t clarify understanding.

          If I had to make a distinction, it’d be that scripting languages are meant to be a simple way to serve a specific niche. Things like SQL or Excel formulas. It doesn’t apply to Python.

        • Malgas@beehaw.orgEnglish
          10·
          1 month ago

          Needless to say, they’re wrong.

          Not least because there’s no such thing as a “compiled” or “interpreted” language.

          Which is to say that it’s a property of the tooling rather than the language itself. There’s nothing stopping anyone from writing a C interpreter or a Python compiler.

          • balsoft@lemmy.ml
            2·
            1 month ago

            Not least because there’s no such thing as a “compiled” or “interpreted” language.

            I’d say there is (but the line is a bit blurry). IMHO the main distinction is the presence (and prevalence) of eval semantics in the language; if it is present, then any “compiler” would have to embed itself into the generated code, thus de-facto turning it into a bundled interpreter.

            That said, the argument that interpreted languages are somehow not programming languages is stupid.

          • Revan343@lemmy.ca
            16·
            1 month ago

            There’s nothing stopping anyone from writing a C interpreter

            Except god, hopefully

      • 0x0@lemmy.zip
        1·
        1 month ago

        One is:

        • a scripting/interpreted language needs an interpreter to be installed on the target system in order to run
        • a programming/compiled language needs a compiler on the host machine and will run as-is standalone in the target machine

        /me ducks for cover

        • Valen@beehaw.orgEnglish
          4·
          1 month ago

          Still a language to make the computer do something. Thus, programming language. Scripts are programs.

      • mriswith@lemmy.worldEnglish
        61·
        1 month ago

        Do you know what community you’re in? Do you want to start a war?

        There is no clear definition because there is a lot of overlap, especially when you get into the details, but:

        • Scripting languages are often considered to be very high level and can commonly run without compilation. Making them great to automate tasks or create a simplified interaction/abstraction layer to a more complex program.

        • Programming languages usually have much lower level access, and by extension they tend to be more complicated. In exchange for that, you get much more control. Although the access varies from Assembly to languages a C programmer would consider “scripting”.

        Although for every example, there is basically a counter example. Because programmers being who they are, see it as a challenge to do something with a language that others consider impossible or wrong.

        For example, there are things like NodeOS, a “Lightweight operating system using Node.js as userspace.”

        • Pardal@lemmy.world
          7·
          1 month ago

          For example, there are things like NodeOS, a “Lightweight operating system using Node.js as userspace.”

          No way this exists.

          Wtf, it exists. Why would anyone do that to the world?

        • frezik@midwest.social
          5·
          1 month ago

          Scripting languages are often considered to be very high level and can commonly run without compilation. Making them great to automate tasks or create a simplified interaction/abstraction layer to a more complex program.

          Then Python is not a scripting language.

          Programming languages usually have much lower level access, and by extension they tend to be more complicated. In exchange for that, you get much more control.

          Would you consider C to be more or less complicated than Perl?

          • mriswith@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            1 month ago

            The first comment worked as bait, but that last question is way too obvious.

            Although just for fun:

            Then Python is not a scripting language.

            That is true. It is often used as one, but it was developed from the start as a general-purpose language.

            Would you consider C to be more or less complicated than Perl?

            You know about Python, Perl and C. You know the answer and you’re just trying to incense people.

            • frezik@midwest.social
              51·
              1 month ago

              No, I’m trying to get people to think. If I laid out my full opinions on this subject (compilers and interpreters aren’t that different anymore, even machine code often runs more like bytecode in many ways, “scripting” is a term that hides what’s actually going on, etc.), then people get into endless debates. My questions are designed to pick apart assumptions.

              Admittedly, people didn’t appreciate when Socrates did this shit, either.

  • 7empest@beehaw.org
    6·
    1 month ago

    I use R for all sorts of bioinformatics shenanigens, and I remind myself daily I am not a nerd. Even my rows of warhammer books, minis and Corvus Corax poster confirm to me I am not a nerd… The Emperor Protects…my code

    • Anomalocaris@lemm.ee
      1·
      1 month ago

      R still gives me chills, never hated a language until I had to use R in my PhD.

      Still furious when half packages need different versions of the same thing making them incompatible.

      • 7empest@beehaw.org
        2·
        1 month ago

        I am a scientist and I used to use SAS for stats, and then started doing loads of bioinformatics in R. Institute decided they werent going to license SAS anymore, and didnt tell us. We get an email the day of, to say no more SAS. Then we have to drop evrything and concert all our SAS models into R… Cue bitching from instiute leaders as to why we had to halt all publications. Idiots.

  • lime!@feddit.nuEnglish
    33·
    1 month ago

    matlab is nobody’s favourite language. although using it does require an engineering degree, which makes you a nerd.

  • gerryflap@feddit.nl
    18·
    1 month ago

    No Haskell so I’m not a nerd 😎. Though from the languages I use the most (Java & Python) and other languages I enjoy (Rust, Julia) I can infer that I’m probably a bit of a nerd.