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My local FreeGeek was selling $5 e-readers in an e-reader bin this weekend.
Found a kindle something or other and a Paperwhite gen 1 for approx. 5 USD. They both remain offline 100% of the time, and they work flawlessly for sideloaded epubs. The Paperwhite even came with some preloaded books (not in my interest genres, but still cool for approx. 5 USD).
Tldr: capitalist efficiency
There is a neat piece about the OS side; worth reading.
I managed to get KOReader on my Grandpa’s old Kindle. One device has now entertained two people for what is likely a decade or two of combined service.
Side note -
I literally have the reader pictured in the thumbnail. It is a Kindle keyboard from 10+ years ago at this point. It still works fine. At one point the original battery went to shit, and it cost very little to get an aftermarket replacement and install it myself.
I keep it offline and read 100% sideloaded .epub books from various sources. The lockscreen ads don’t even try to display anymore.
Sure it isn’t backlit or waterproof but it still functions flawlessly as a generic reader. Old tech like this is awesome. Why not get a decade of use (or more) out of something that still works?
I have a similar model I picked up at a garage sale for 5 dollars. Best bang for buck tech purchase I ever made. They really don’t need wifi or software upgrades to function well when all I do is transfer epubs over usb once a year.
Keeping it offline is 100% the right call. My 250€ Kindle Oasis (1st Gen) became unusably slow after the last major update. Constantly freezes. This was marketed as a premium device, and you can’t even upgrade because Amazon killed the line. My next e-reader won’t be Amazon, but it sucks that I’ll lose all the notes I’ve had on there since I got my first Kindle in 2009.
Might there not be a way to extract them?
My partner has a newer one and it can only work offline. I can’t get it to even connect to WiFi any more.
I had the exact same experience with that model. The screen eventually cracked (I think I had it in a backpack that I was a bit too rough with). It was easy enough to replace the screen with one I found on AliExpress, but unfortunately the replacement then cracked a few weeks later. I don’t know whether it was because the replacement screen was poor quality or because once I had taken the device apart the screen was less protected, but I figured I wasn’t going to throw good money after bad. I ended up getting a second hand Kobo Aura on eBay which has served me well.
eReaders have gotten some new features like backlights but I don’t think the technology has fundamentally moved on all that much.
It’s definitely iterative but the newer eInk screens are higher res and color. Dunno how refresh rates compare on the color screens.
Much faster and less prone to ghosting.
That said, I never took much issue with it. I didn’t have any of the very first e-readers so I’ve no idea if they’d bother me, but my first e-reader, a Kobo Touch from 2011 worked just fine and the refresh rate and ghosting wasn’t a problem.
I think the biggest pro with modern devices (to me personally) is that they’ve gotten more compact. I like how slim and comfortable my Boox Color 7 is.
Exactly, I’m considering grabbing the Voyage as I loved the one I had back in the day
My very early gen, Nook glowlight is still going somehow. I even bought it used for 50 bucks about 10 years ago. The battery is still decent and backlights fine and I am able to keep it offline. Im not sure what I would do if it croaked.
I’ve got a decade old Sony ereader that’s still good as new. Battery lasts a couple weeks too, I love it.
I bought a Kindle 3rd generation (the one with the keyboard) and it also still functions correctly, I just brought it to a beach trip I had last week.
I bought a nook simple touch a couple of weeks ago for $20, look into the Phoenix Project for those.
Actually quick question, how did the author pull in all those resources on the comment section? That is pretty awesome!
There is a hint of how he did this here: https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2023/06/12000-comments/
“I moderate heavily. If someone is rude or abusive, their comment isn’t published. Unless it’s really funny.” :-)
To be clear you don’t have to get that technical to read non-Amazon books on your kindle… I’ve owned 2 different kindles over the course of about 15 years and literally never bought an ebook from Amazon. Just gotta know where to get them (libgen) and how to use them (calibre.)
A cheap ereader would be nice, but I’ve kinda had to go the opposite direction; my eyes weren’t great to begin with and have only gotten worse with age, so I need a larger screen. I do very little reading (in general, not of books specifically) on my phone because it’s too small and I have to zoom in and pan around all the time, etc.
I never realised people have issues with non-Amazon ebooks. The first thing I did was search how to put my own ebooks on my kindle and I found calibre, which is super easy to use.
Has anyone tried any of the wacky e-ink readers on aliexpress?
I doubt they’d connect to the amazon ecosystem, but might be ok offline devices.
It’s crazy. I bought the then-current basic model Kindle for $90 NZD in 2012, which still works. I recently started looking for a new eReader with USB C and without the rubberised coating that slowly turns back into oil. The cheapest I’ve found is over $200.
The current ad-supported basic Kindle is $109 USD, which is just $12 more expensive than it was back in 2012, adjusted for inflation (it was $70 in 2012, which would be $97 today).
It could be cheaper today, but Amazon has clearly pulled back from selling them at a loss hoping to get the costs back from ebook sales.Yeah, I didn’t consider that the exchange rate in 2012 was really good. With the new price and today’s exchange rate, it would be $180 NZD, which isn’t the end of the world, but feels kind of wrong because electronics generally get cheaper the longer they’re on the market.
That being said, it isn’t just Kindles. Kobos used to be ridiculously cheap, and now they’re the same price as Kindles if not more.
I couldn’t even get hold of one for most of last year until the ships finally got some stock in for Black Friday. I should jailbreak it.
He blames patents (Eink isn’t a patent troll) although Eink patents expired 7 years ago.
The problem is even without patents, the underlying tech of making the eink particles is hard.
I gave up on eReaders after 2 bad experiences with Kindles. I still have the last one I bought but it keeps on rebooting after a couple of minutes and couldn’t find a way to fix it.
I had a look recently and they’re all 180€+ now. Back to real books then.
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Kobos are pretty nice. They’re not cheap, as you pointed out, but you can get an older or used one for quite a bit cheaper and it’s just as good. They run Linux. It’s almost completely open, and anything that isn’t might as well be. That said you really don’t need to open it up much, just enough to install something like koreader which basically completely replaces the OS on the thing. It does everything I would ever want to use my ereader for … granted that’s pretty much just “read ebooks”.
They run Linux
No, that’s PocketBook who runs a (old) “naked” Linux. Kobo is AOSP-based; a vendor-ROM without Play Store and thus no “Android” certificate.
Well ok, if you are to call Android a Linux, Matter of opinion. I do run LineageOS on my Leaf btw.
It’s my “opinion” that a device running a slightly modified Linux 2.6 kernel is literally running Linux, yes. Maybe you’re making the point that it’s not a full GNU/Linux distribution that most people imagine when they hear Linux, and that’s a valid and valuable clarification which I thank you for providing, but you don’t need to imply I’m wrong to provide that clarification.
My kobo Libra 2 does not run aosp.
They play both sides?
I use a 2018 Paperwhite I hacked about five years ago, still does me fine with Koreader and zlibrary ebooks.
When it dies, I’ll just do another one for cheap. Ebook tech hasn’t done anything worthwhile and color is a meme. Comics look better on oled imo.
The kobo colour goes for less than $160 regularly. It is water proof, has front ligths, usb-c, and it can display color. I’m considering it for an upgrade from my, bought used 8 years ago, kindle. With Kobo, and ereaders track record in general, it will probably last twice that and still work. I consider that extremely cheap, specially in a market that usually expects people to dump a thousand dollars every two or three years for a phone. E readers have some of the best cost to utility ratios of electronics.
Yeah, I just paid $140 for a Clara BW, and I’m considering the Libra Color the next time it goes on sale (my kids like comic books).
Still using my Nook Glowlight Plus 2015. Haven’t needed to change the battery as battery life is still exceptional. I will be sad when I have to swap the battery one day as I’ll need to break the water resistant seal they manufactured this with.
Haven’t felt any desire to upgrade as this device does exactly what I need: store a shitload of books without distractions.
