Premium Lite? What paid benefits are there to YouTube other than removing ads?
YouTube music. But since Lite has ads then idk what it’s different. I’m assuming Lite also doesn’t have music.
Premium Lite does not include access to YouTube Music - or else the ads on music videos wouldn’t be seen. (That’s the only thing i can understand on this bastardized version of a premium service)
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YouTube music is better than music on youtube, particularly for people with slow or capped internet.
And it’s better for people who want to listen to more than just a few songs, for people who need an organized collections, playlists, etc. In other words, for those who need a music streaming service. YouTube isn’t one.
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In the time it takes for a video to even show up, I can have a song playing with a playlist behind it. One video is the same amount of data as many songs.
My phone is my home internet and is often under 100KB/s, even at 240p YouTube takes way longer than YouTube music.
You’re not necessarily streaming video on YT music, just audio.
Moderately, it’s still not as good as Play Music it replaced, and frankly the only reason I use it is because it comes with Premium (and Lite gets ads so fuck that deal), otherwise I’d subscribe to something else for music (aside from growing my album collection on Bandcamp).
I heard good things about play music but I was super pov when that existed and didn’t pay for any online stuff, it was piracy or nothing.
Thats the exact same reason I have YouTube music.
That was the reason to use Play Music when it was a thing. Upload all your torrented music and stream it for free.
I just had all the music on my phone
I remember when YouTube Music first came out it was pretty much just the audio from the videos in the most atrocious quality. Has it changed since then?
Youtube Music is pretty much just youtube with a different UI - the videos are the same. The audio quality is whatever’s uploaded, so it’ll vary a lot song to song.
There is another benefit - it can be played in the background if I remember properly.
Oh good, I’m not missing out then. I moved around quite a bit between Deezer, Tidal, random piracy in FLAC until finally landing on Apple Music.
I’ve resorted back to piracy, but mostly cuz my taste in music confuses the hell out of the algorithms: I’m a fan of symphonic metal, and seeding one of those songs as the start of a playlist on something like YT music will land you with a combination of heavy death metal and renaissance fair music.
If I ever find one that can actually distinguish sub-genres of metal, then sign me the fuck up!!
When I started listening to more obscure avantgarde records, I stopped believing in genres. I mean, take Mr Bungle for example. Twelve genres in four minutes. How would you even label that?
You can mix TIDAL and piracy; I use
tidal-dlquite a lot. The problem with streaming services is that they can close shop in five minutes, and all of “your” music won’t be yours anymore.(I think Apple Music has similar tools.)
What I didn’t like about Tidal was their weird format being advertised as lossless when it wasn’t. It didn’t really sound all that great.
There was an application called requiem (if I remember correctly) that could rip music from older Windows XP versions of iTunes; it was only available over Tor quite some time ago. I’m not sure what people would use these days (maybe just a [modified] DAC?).
Youtube Music is pretty much just youtube with a different UI
Lmao, what? YouTube Music is essentially Spotify with the ability to add YouTube videos to your playlists. It has an enormous music library comparable to other streaming services, it’s not “youtube with a different ui”.
…that enormous library is called “YouTube videos”.
False.
Well, I’m still happy that my grandfathered $7.99 plan from the GPM days still holds up, fully ad-free.
Watch your card on file. I had the whole enchalada once and loved using the music app and no ads. Card expired for one payment, sub cancelled, and I fixed it immediately. They wouldn’t give it back to me, and refused to refund the larger payment for just Youtube.
Y’all pay for YouTube?
I would
ofif there was a family tier that plays YouTube without ads in my country. The content I watch is good and authors deserve payment IMO. Sadly there is currently no competition, there are some marginal subscription services and there is peertube which doesn’t have monetization.The ad revenue YouTube gets should be paying the content creators, no?
Yes, sure, I just don’t want to watch ads. There is really too much of them
I agree. I guess I don’t watch YouTube enough for it to be a big burden. Just mute it for a few seconds.
If it was only few seconds. At best you can skip after 5s but then you get plenty of 15-50s ads every 5+ minutes or so with some videos. It makes it almost impossible to watch it.
I’ve recently been getting warning notices on Firefox that “AdBlockers are not allowed on YouTube!” I laugh and continue on.
i actually never got that from youtube, im using ubo, and other adblockers too.
Never seen it and I’m just using ubo
yup, it would be an onslaught of ads if ever stopped using it for 1 second. i done that a couple times to support some content creators a couple time, never again.
Cable TV providers in the 70s: “No commercials when you pay for our services!”
Cable TV providers in the early 80s: “Ok, we actually meant no commercials on premium channels, but local channels will, and it’s not our fault.”
Cable TV providers in the late 80s: “Fine. What we meant was no commercials on movie channels.”
Cable TV providers in the 90s: “Uhm, so only on-demand shows will be commercial free.”
So what we need is a new disruptive media type that puts is on the head-end of the cycle again?
Probably 10 years until AR starts this cycle over.
Nah. We need to hack the planet.
Wait. I pay for YouTube with my time, the most important resource I have access to. There’s a level where you pay money and STILL SEE ADS?
I pay money to ride on the bus and still see ads there.
And you should not. But perhaps you would not want the fares to rise?
The bus doesn’t stop when you look at an ad.
Try harder.
Super tube next on android tvs, free tube for android
I’m never going to pay to see ads in my life. Nope.
Sadly I do so every week when going to the cinema
Yeah, horrible innit? When I used to go to the cinema as a kid in the 70s and 80s, you’d get maybe ten minutes of trailers before your film. And I never minded that, I don’t dislike watching trailers. These days, totally different. Last time I went to the cinema there was maybe half an hour of ads. Some trailers, but mostly just advertisements for crap.
It is so fuckin disrespectful to their customers. If I wanted to see all that bullshit, I could have stayed home and watched it on TV. Except I don’t watch TV because the experience is so poor - largely because of ads.
I understand that cinemas have been struggling ever since covid, even before, and I understand that advertising revenue pays the bills. But cinema isn’t cheap, for me it’s an occasional treat when there’s something I really wanna see on the big screen. I do not want to spend that much money and get treated like a fuckin farm animal being fed crap. Wankers.
I can’t be alone in feeling this way, who wants to pay to see ads? Who thinks that sounds like a great evening out? It ruins the experience, and it’s insulting, by the time the movie starts I’m angry. I’d rather pay a bit more and just have a couple of trailers.
I recently went to a small autonomous cinema with a mate and saw Mulholland Drive. Great experience, comfy seats, could bring in drinks from the bar, no fuckin ads. But for new films there aren’t many options. So I don’t often go to the cinema.
Sorry for this long and bitter diatribe! You just hit on something that really pisses me off too.
I’ve started to go 15-20 minutes late. I’ve never missed a minute of movie, but I’ve skipped so many ads.
Go 20 minutes late my dude
That’ll be the one movie they decide to show no prescreening ads lol
That happened to me once. I think it was I Heart Huckabees. It started and people were so confused. I half think David O Russel asked them to do it to throw people off.
I haven’t gone to a movie in like… 10 years probably. Ha…
I feel like youtube is losing sight of why users are paying for the service then.
To me, personally, youtube is useful enough that I will keep paying to remove ads entirely (in combination with ublock). That being said, there will come a time when the value proposition is no longer balanced. Then I will stop paying, and probably stop using it as well.
But as always with Google, I question whether their motive is to kill another service. They’re very competent at that specific thing.
They just want users who are paying full freight as they know the ad business is in step decline.
Is it in decline? I mean, I want to believe it, but I haven’t seen any hard data on that.
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The internet isn’t built on it. The commercial websites who do not have other products (as in all the websites related to RL goods, stores,…) are.
Exactly. If every ad-dependent website went offline tomorrow and all we were left with was Wikipedia, PeerTube, government/academia sites and a bunch of Geocities-esque “labor of love” hobbyist pages, nothing of value would be lost.
True, but my point was that even a lot of the commercial websites that do have other products do not depend on ads, e.g. Amazon and all the other stores would still be there, every company offering a paid service would still be there, every company providing a service related to their RL goods (e.g. specs, drivers, product descriptions, lists of stores where you can buy them,…) would still be there.
Advertising does not finance a very large percentage of the useful parts of the internet. And among those advertising financed websites that are useful a lot are essentially duplicates to get a chunk of the ad revenue without doing a lot of work (e.g. almost all news websites that just republish AP, Reuters,… content).
content creator on youtube had to resort to patreon, brand deals and promotion to stay afloat.
I think I’m understanding the playbook here.
Eventually YouTube will cost 89.99 a month and also be full of ads.
Then they will be disrupted by some startup company that will have to fight uphill for search and bandwidth access through Google’s monopolistic front door.
Years later a court case will be decided and the new guy will be up and running a free service with a few ads or 1.99 a month for no ads!
And then we get to go through it all again.
There is no end to the greed of those with millions and especially billions and they aren’t content to just keep running a profitable business, they have to get all the money.
This is just the history of humanity and finances forever, the one saving grace in all this is every big business gets complacent in its money making and seeks ever increasing profit (and becomes management heavy) until a young upstart finds a way to do it a lot better and cheaper and disrupts the market. Google has become the big lumbering unable to change organisation seeking maximum profit now, its become IBM.
Ah, the grand circle of enshittification.
They are really dedicated to helping foster the pirate side of the Web, aren’t they?
Youtube has ads?
🤷(https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/releases)
Imagine paying for “Premium Lite”
Oh fuck odd Google. Literally the only reason I was paying for your crap videos is so I could play music on my TV uninterrupted.
I still use an ad blocker. They can fuck themselves in the ass. I’ll never stop.
And with that I can confirm I will continue to use adblock.
