• JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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        Yeah, that’s my thought too. I really wish so many Leftists didn’t have their heads up their ass about this, the amount of potential for creating massive amounts of agitslop, with some of the models coming out lately, are immense. Have you seen Yue?

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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          I completely agree, it’s so frustrating to see people continue rejecting use of these tools as if it’s going to have any affect on whether corps will continue to develop them or not. The only path forward is to support open development of this stuff, and as you say, there’s just so much potential for agitprop here. And I did run across Yue recently, it’s very cool.

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            the environmental costs and the “we don’t have socialism” part are kinda important

            even if those weren’t problems i think i’d rather have communist fiverr because that would build community while generative ai isolates us. like train stations vs highways.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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              The environmental costs argument doesn’t really hold water anymore because models have become far more efficient now. You can run a model on a laptop today that has comparable performance to one that would’ve needed a whole data center just a year ago.

              Meanwhile, socialism doesn’t just magically appear out of the void, it arises out of capitalist stage of development. It’s something people roll up their sleeves and build with their labour. Creating open source tools is precisely what we should be doing to build socialism. This is literally a question of workers owning their own tools.

              Generative AI doesn’t isolate us, it’s a tool. What isolates us are capitalist relations, and we’ve been atomized by capitalism long before generative AI existed as a concept.

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                The environmental costs argument doesn’t really hold water anymore because models have become far more efficient now. You can run a model on a laptop today that has comparable performance to one that would’ve needed a whole data center just a year ago.

                creating the models is still fucked. i don’t mean running my own gpu.

                Generative AI doesn’t isolate us

                yes it fucking does. instead of collaborating with someone else who has a skill I don’t have i just have the magic box do it. the reason it’s hard to find someone to make me some 3D models is capitalism, the reason i don’t have time or energy to learn all these skills i don’t have is capitalism, but the tool that allows the company to fire workersbecause they don’t need them for the work to get done also makes it so I don’t need someone else for the work to get done.

                it absolutely reinforces isolation.

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
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                  Typically, people build on existing models as opposed to training them from scratch. The amount of times models are trained from ground up is infinitesimally small in the grand scheme of things. Most of the energy is spent in actually running them.

                  yes it fucking does. instead of collaborating with someone else who has a skill I don’t have i just have the magic box do it.

                  Literally the opposite is true. Tools like ComfyUI are already being used by artists to collaborate and bring their visions to life. This particularly true for smaller studios that have limited resources.

                  These tools streamline the workflow and allow for a faster transition from the initial sketch to a final product. They also facilitate an iterative and dynamic creative process, encouraging experimentation and leading to unexpected and innovative results. AI has the capacity to expand creative potential and enables smaller teams to tackle more ambitious projects.