• slumberlust@lemmy.world
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    29 days ago

    If you find yourself not wanting to switch, there are third party options for patching. I’m going to try zero patch, but I have no experience with them to date.

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    29 days ago

    What is the highest spec pc I am likely to find for sale when people realise it cant go to windows 11?

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      TMP 2.0 released in October 2014, so I don’t think that you can find particularly powerful systems up for grabs.

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      I had a look and it looks like you will not get anything special. The cutoff is around 2015. So for example Lenovo T440s will support Win11 but T440p will not. Looking at backmarket T440s is cheaper than T440p. So looks like you will only be able to get something ancient and the price will be pretty standard.

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      Unless the requirements have changed, you’re looking at 2016-2017 era. Intel 7000-series, AMD Ryzen 1000-series. Newer may be available if there’s no TPM installed.

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      Now with AI! So Windows can use your processing power to record and analyze every use of your computer, and report back useful findings to MS. What data is sent back? Who knows? You certainly won’t be told what ‘core telemetry’ is required at any point in time.

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        You certainly won’t be told what ‘core telemetry’ is required at any point in time.

        Except the Diagnostics Data Viewer has been a thing for a long time and tells you exactly what data is sent back as telemetry. Now if you don’t believe it that another topic.

        at least I haven’t seen anyone prove it sends all data of your machine

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          Have you ever looked at what’s in that thing? It’s not exactly transparent. There’s heap of data that’s is not clearly labelled or easily readable. Also, again, what data is sent can changes from update to update - without any any control from the owner of the computer; and without so much as a notification or even an update log.

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    wishful thinking. i mean i get where the sentiment is coming from, but normal users are going to have a lot of problems if they make that switch. especially if they need particular types of software.

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      I wish I could make parts in FreeCAD anywhere close to as good as I can in Fusion 360… I REALLY miss it since the move to Linux. I’m not anywhere near as excited about my 3D printer anymore since designing parts is a slog and the end result I am generally un-proud of. :( I feel like my only option (which sucks) is buy a second GPU for pass through and install windows 10 in a VM that only touches the internet once every 2 weeks to keep Fusion happy.

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          It is possible, but I have problems with it. Number one, my current GPU is one affected by the AMD reset bug, so it would take even more tinkering than that tutorial to get working. Number two, I’d prefer to not have to choose between windows or linux having the GPU - having to shut down the VM to get back to my normal desktop and programs is not ideal.

          Also, I just wish FreeCAD made more sense to me, as I don’t trust Autodesk long-term to not take away the “free for personal use” license. They’ve already taken several anti-consumer steps already. :(

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    Can’t wait for the “The end of Windows 11 is approaching…” article in a few years. Keep me posted.

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    Also 0patch, which will continue to provide security patches for Windows 10 indefinitely.

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      For a lot of people that say of thinking doesn’t work, they explicitly don’t want to/wont go without, people enjoy luxury and convenience and aren’t going to skate by on only things they strictly need

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    I’m likely going to because windows update is embarrassingly bad if you have 32gb as your goddamn boot drive.

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    LOL no. There are many good reasons choose Linux on the desktop/laptop, but the so-called Win10 apocalypse isn’t in the top 10.

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      Whilst that’s true, it’s a good opportunity to push Linux as a potential alternative in a few different ways - reduction of e-waste, free and private oriented alternative, simple (in some situations/distro) for certain basic users, or even someone who wants to get a little more technical. It’s good to promote the idea that there is more to computers than a monolithic monopoly called Microsoft.

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      Two of my friends switched recently precisely because Win 10 was going end of life. ‘I have to change the OS anyway’ was the final motivator.

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    Installed Linux Mint a few months ago and have been dual booting. Hardly use Windows at all now.

    Linux is exactly what an OS should be.

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      I dual booth Win11 and Fedora Desk 42. It feels gross starting windows but there are 2, TWO! Apps that don’t have Linux version that I still need.

      When Linux wizards figure out a way to use win apps without the intimidating complexity of installing Wine or virtualization, more people will switch.

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        intimidating complexity of installing Wine

        I would give that a shot. The full guide is install ‘wine’ and ‘winetricks’ the same way you install any other software you use. Then in winetricks, select ‘default prefix’, then ‘run arbitrary executable’, and point it to your .exe installer. After that, you just open the program like any other program on your system.

        You generally don’t need to do more than that and might let you forgo ever dual booting again.

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      I’m between living locations and can’t carry my desktop around.

      So I grabbed an old laptop and put Linux mint on it. It’s been near perfect. Extremely smooth experience.

      It detected my printer and auto installed. I installed steam and played Terraria without issue. Small performance problem but I don’t have a GPU. Even works good with my docking station.

      My only complaint is the audio device doesn’t switch automatically when I dock/undock.

      I’d recommend making a USB and boot into it for a test drive.

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        Awesome, thanks for the insight. I was actually looking at Linux Mint myself. I need around 4Gb on a USB to boot it, correct?

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          That might do it. I don’t own anything smaller than 16 GB sticks. I used Rufus on windows to make my stick.

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            Rufus is great and I still keep a copy around, but I haven’t gone back since I found Ventoy. You just run Ventoy on your stick, and then drag and drop any and all bootable ISOs into it. When you boot it, you get a list of all the ISOs to work with.

            The only caveat is that you absolutely have to eject the USB, or else Ventoy probably will corrupt. That’s a small price to pay to have Arch, Mint, Fedora, NixOS, and Win11 all on one OS ISO toolkit drive, plus I always eject my drives as a rule of thumb. Then all I have to do is update them every couple months.

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        I end up with all the “broken” laptops my family replaces after they buy new ones.

        I’ve got like 9 laptops. Active ones are my Linux one, work one (windows 11) and my wife’s school one (windows 11). We both have win 10 desktops still.

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          They are all my personal laptops from different parts of my past, that I just never threw away when I upgraded

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          That’s reasonable; I just wouldn’t have called my wife’s laptop my laptop I guess. It was either that or there was probably an interesting story behind it.

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      Yes, exactly.

      (Kinda unrelated side note: Nobody around me is getting that all these apps are STUPID and MAKES YOU THE PRODUCT. Just why are they critisizing without even trying them?)

    • sixty@sh.itjust.works
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      I recently jumped on pure Mint after buying a new desktop PC with no OS pre-installed. Within a week I was dual booting it on my laptop too. It’s so much faster and efficient. Battery feels like it lasts 50% longer.

      And the control is amazing.

      I was very skeptical of Linux, as I had a shitty experience previously with OpenSUSE where nothing worked. Mint is the way to go tho, been so smooth.

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      Haven’t booted windows in over a month now. If I want to play pubg or bf1, thats about the only reason I need windows. And I do a lot of gaming, just not aaa multi-player. But I am enjoying computing again just like when I was younger and computers were interesting and fun and not corpo ad stations on your machine.

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      Linux Mint would like a word. Best choice tech wise I ever made. Shit just works and it’s dead simple, polished, easy to learn and read programs. Fuck Windows. I will never go back. Make the jump!

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    I’ve had windows update disabled for years so the fact that it’s “end of life” don’t mean shit to me. It’ll keep chugging along for years more.

    That said, I installed Mint a week ago and love it!

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      EOL means no more security updates, which means attack vectors don’t get patched.

      If you keep using a Windows installation (or any OS for that matter) that isn’t patched regularly you are very likely to be victim to some malicious actor eventually. It’s not manual hacking anymore, it’s bots scraping the whole internet exploiting known vulnerabilities completely automated.

      The risk is much lower if you’re in a home network with NAT, where your PCs IP is not publicly reachable, but if you communicate with any webservices you’re still vulnerable.

      As example. If you nowadays put a Windows XP machine live on the internet with a public IP, it will be compromised within minutes.

      So yeah. Good call switching to Mint, but please don’t use unpatched Windows.