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Thoughts:
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Was this just a gesture? Did they even seriously hit Fordow with for example nuclear bunker busters? Because their conventional ones would need several hits for sure success.
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Also once again this proves Iran’s air defenses are not good folks. They just strolled in. I was thinking originally maybe they hit facilities near the borders with glide bombs but to hit Fordow they’d have to go deep. Is it too much to ask for them to down a B2? Apparently so and it really puts doubt into my mind about those claims of shooting down f-35s from the zionist air force.
This attack was CLEARLY telegraphed. The whole waiting two weeks was such an obvious ruse just as they’d attacked them during talks that if Iran wasn’t on full alert they are naive as hell. If they were it shows they’re powerless against American air power. I mean WSJ leaked it was happening.
Iran is a sitting duck and it is frustrating to read this. They should have gotten a nuke. They should have expected these bombings and should have developed or bought or stolen better air defenses. They should have chosen at least one of these to do.
Let’s say they moved the nuclear materials. But if they did they now have to hide them and move them and hide them and I doubt they have any places as hardened as Fordow. Mossad infiltration is pretty deep so if Iran doesn’t go sicko-mode on the US and zionists in response the US will just bomb that new location and act like it’s not an act of war.
At this point frankly I don’t get the point of bluffing with the uranium enrichment beyond 60%. I understood it to be an Iranian tactic to threaten to get nukes and show they could in order to get concessions in negotiations but given how the west has shown their dishonesty both with Iran and Russia it seems kind of silly at this point. But perhaps they believe in great man politics and hope a Democratic politician will negotiate (and for some reason that a Republican won’t just undo it like Trump did).
If it was an empty gesture, if no real damage was done to say Fordow and Trump is just going to declare victory regardless it may be tactically smart for Iran to stay mum on the failure of the strikes and let him have his win. Though the problem with this is Bibi may publicly announce it failed anyways to pressure Trump into more strikes.
If on the other hand these strikes were successful Iran needs to hit back by sinking a carrier group. Closing the strait of Hormuz is an option but one which will fuck up China’s economy if maintained for any significant period of time.
Iran however may no matter how bad the damage choose to just grit and bear it. They chose the “poison pill” of the JCPOA after all in 2015 and may choose not to do more than symbolic retaliation which of course emboldens the empire to hit them again and more frequently as well. Iran frankly either stands up right now or they can kiss goodbye any hopes of reclaiming their regional power status. With Hezbollah already on the backfoot and Syria out of the picture their power projection and proxy projects were already fucked up medium-term at least. But if they let the west salami-slice their way to hitting them however they want, decapitations, strategic bombings to take out valuable assets in their borders, etc they cease to be a functioning state and enter Syrian circa 2018 failing state territory where more pushes and shoves will come until they topple them and remove them from the picture.
So I fear the US and the zionist entity slowly strangling and bombing them to death as they turn the other cheek again and again because they fear escalating and allow the salmi-slicing tactics to work.
The whole waiting two weeks was such an obvious ruse
I think an important thing to recognize is that Trump makes these highly unpopular decisions on the start of a weekend because the stock market is closed. He did the same thing with some of the tariff announcements.
Yeah and it’s well known and western media broadcast it. It’s such a weak faint, so transparent that if the Iranians were taken in at all by it at this point just… no words. Not saying they were just saying it would be.
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At least McCain died before he had a chance to enjoy it.
Now who will Bolton celebrate with, chuck Schumer???
Nick Mullen. They should get him back on Fox’s Red Eye
Based and “oh good we’re doing this now” pilled
hil-dawg
I also forgot about graham
McCain and Kissinger both probably felt a cosmic reverberation and are now temporarily force-ghosted until regime change is concluded
they’re doing an Endor celebration right now in Cheney’s hunting lodge except all the Ewoks are dead animals mounted on the walls
Did we just start wwiii
I’ve been coming around to the historical framework that views World War 1 as the end of the world and we’re living in what amounts to the apocalypse
Any interesting reading on that you can share?
No idea sorry, it’s just a vibe I ascribe to
No, it’s Switch 2 that’s out now
depends who wins whether this started it or if the reaction to it starts it.
WW3 has been ongoing for a few years now
a now 30-year post-soviet sengoku jidai even
Sengoku like the one piece character?
Son goku like
kind of, but in the sense that oda is a goat and named the one piece character “Warring States” (literally). the warring states period or sengoku jidai was the period of japanese history prior to the edo era, and was ended by Oda Nobunaga’s overthrow of the Ashikaga Shogunate
Playing some assassins creed eh
Word ty for the background, had no idea!
it’s pretty interesting history! reading about that period and the meiji restoration is also pretty interesting in the context of one piece. i would actually argue that the wano arc is essentially oda asking “what if the meiji restoration wasn’t reactionary?”
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
We LOST WWIII when our current presidential placeholder was elected.
Biden started this genocide and allowed this to get to this point
It would be so much better if a deranged, bloodthirsty democrat was in power. They never wage war against the workers of the middle east.
Just think…all the democrats could’ve comfortably eaten their brunch while those brown children get killed by US bombs! Instead those poor democrats have to worry about whether or not Trump will be a competent enough president to commit crimes against humanity.
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There’s a difference between killing a general and bombing 3 nuclear reactors
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I will beat you the fuck up
Is that where you want to split hairs on this issue? You don’t get anything for being technically correct.
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Again, why are you splitting hairs in this situation? The main issue with this is that the US bombed another country, escalating an already tense international conflict.
Will the damage to infrastructure be different? Yes.
Will the act be seen as a lesser act of war? I don’t think so.
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What’s the difference? Explain
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Fordow and Natanz are enrichment sites, and Isfahan is a research reactor, the impact of bombing these sites is not the same as it would be if an operational power reactor was bombed. This is not a minor correction, and significantly impacts how the events should be interpreted. Everyone who responded negatively to this needs to self-crit, the response here is embarrassing.
bombing either reactor or enrichment site is equally reckless af
They attacked Iranian forces outside of Iran, that’s a little different.
fair that assassination seemed like it would’ve back then but it did not
Al-Jazeera seems to be giving the best updates so far:
IRNA news agency quotes an official with the country’s public broadcaster as saying: “There are no materials in these three nuclear sites that cause radiation.”
The comment suggests that Iranian authorities may have removed enriched uranium from the facilities before they were bombed.
Then a little later:
“Hours ago, after Qom’s air defenses were activated and hostile targets were identified, part of the Fordow nuclear site was attacked by enemy airstrikes,” Morteza Heydari, a spokesman for the Qom Provincial Crisis Management Headquarters, was quoted as saying.
Al Jazeera live feed is good. I also like the Drop Site News twitter account. It’s run by Ryan Grim and Jeremy Scahill.
Porks when they start WW3 because they’re bored.
God damn it.
it is time to join
i guessTrump told Fox News that “2 weeks” was a lie for “operation security”.
“So when we were negotiating with Iran it was a lie so Israel could attack it. Then we said we wanted to negotiate but that was a lie, too, so we could bomb them. So anyways, we need Iran to stop with the aggression and come to the negotiating table.”
Someone mentioned that the US always does their major bombings after the stock markets closes on Friday so it doesn’t disrupt the markets. Now what was the damage and what will be Iran’s response?
This is definitely a thing, and brings up a question I’ve had multiple times. People always say “war is good for Capital” but that doesn’t seem to be true? War seems to be very bad for 90% of the capitalist class and really good for a small niche group that makes their money the most evil way possible.
Why do the larger class of non-MIC capitalists not simply eat the smaller class of warmongers that are ruining the bag?
can someone just give Iran some nukes? the world would be much better off for it
I think you might need to change your name. That is not a bad take.
Why are you posting this? This is a good take!
GoodTakesHaver
They’re from the 80’s when bad meant good
Bad as in the power glove
Which was aggressively bad.
It’s so bad
California
wrong
This bloodlust death cult empire really wants to just destroy everything. Good job they’re really getting that wish I guess.
https://xcancel.com/DropSiteNews/status/1936574988640714767#m
Axios Barak Ravid says that Israel was informed on the attack and coordinated the attack with the US.
[bombs you]
Okay now is the time for peace.
Iran walking out of the convention centre with a suspiciously reactor shaped crater
Death to america
Would biden have done it sooner do you think?
Hillary would have Weekend at Bernies’d him into bombing Iran while he was taking a nap in a sunbeam
Doesn’t matter. The timeline is probably about the same.
I’m still saying that the Democrats lost the presidential election on purpose. Trump does the things that Democrats want and then Republicans take the blame. Democrats try to preserve the party so they can keep collecting donations, while letting Republicans win and enact the interests of the capitalist class.
