Brb, backing up my script folder and deleting anything I haven’t already shared with the team
Since its clear you are a bad worker leave off a few important task. They can chalk it up later to themselves as proof they made the right decision when those tasks fall through the cracks.
All important tasks. Let them figure it out
The only good thing about getting laid off is 1) you can at least collect unemployment 2) It’s easier to get another job because you weren’t simply fired
What’s the difference between being laid off and being fired?
You can’t collect unemployment if you get fired.
It depends. I was terminated under false pretenses, so I collected unemployment without any issues.
Yeah you can. You forfeit UI if you quit voluntarily. You’d only lose it if you got fired for doing something illegal, I think
That’s my understanding too.
Nope. There are firings with cause that have nothing to do with legality and it turns out that’s most of them by far. You can legally tell customers to lick your balls and you will probably get fired for misconduct and then you won’t get benefits. What constitutes “misconduct” varies by state but none of them require you to break the law.
Probably more protections in blue states I’m guessing
Depends on the state but basically they have to prove it was for cause. You being late nonstop and being fired? No UE. You getting fired for “no call no show” when you ha e the phone records to prove you called in and you have no disciplinary record? You’ll get UE.
I got “fired” once in my life right before a big round of layoffs for the above reason. This was in TX so my UE got denied right out of the gate but when I appealed the company didn’t even bother showing up.
It was a pretty slam dunk case of them reaching and pulling shit out of their ass so I won the appeal.
Always appeal, especially in republican states where they default to siding with the companies.
The specifics will vary by jurisdiction. The state I live in, you can collect unemployment if fired but it has to be determined that you were not fired for noncompliance with workplace policies or illegal actions. For example if you stole from the cash register and got caught and fired you would not be able to collect unemployment. But if you were fired for poor performance you can receive unemployment
I learned this after a recent workplace decided to make up performance reasons to fire me. The state opened an investigation to determine if unemployment benefits should be paid out, which involved asking both myself and the previous employer about the stated reasons for the discharge, if any written or verbal warnings were given, etc. Hilariously my old employer dropped the entire line of reasoning and just said “it didn’t work out” when the investigator for the state spoke with them. I also then learned that the maximum unemployment benefit in my state is only $1200/month which won’t cover most folks rents so that’s practically useless!
Goddamn that’s low. At first I read that as $1200/week, which would be the highest in the nation.
I also got termed for no reason but my state maxes out at $875 per week, low considering the cost of living here.
Lay offs aren’t related to your behaviour. Just that they cannot afford to keep you.
“they cannot afford to keep you.” Oh they almost certainly CAN. They just don’t want to.
You het fired for being bad at work, coming in late, etc.
You get laid off for “we don’t wanna pay you anymore.”
A lay off is generally broad in scope. A department might get laid off.
Firings are usually with cause and individual. You are fired for showing up late every day. You’re laid off when they simply don’t need you anymore.
This varies from state to state across the US and probably only applies here, but if you’re fired with cause, you generally don’t get unemployment benefits. If you’re laid off you might get a severance on top of unemployment.
Particularly shitty companies will always fire as many people as they can prior to a lay off. A big part of HR’s job at these organizations is making sure they have a case to fire as many people as possible at any given time. If you’ve ever worked in any call center in the US, you’ve been subjected to this, knowingly or not. They’ll document a handful of even the slightest grievances and make sure they have two in the chamber at any given time for any given employee, so if it looks like they need to get rid of a lot of people in the near future they’ll start digging for a third infraction.
Unemployment isn’t that easy to collect in a lot of states. My state’s unemployment system is essentially designed to dissuade people from collecting. Tons of red tape, rules, and conditions to wade through and if the stars are right you might start getting checks worth 2/3 the value of your original paycheck a month later.
The best thing about getting laid off is still getting paid but not having to go to work.
Having responsibility that they don’t want you to abuse, and having a robust social net that requires employers to pay out an employee for a specified time (mine was 3 month) is amazing. (Go Belgium)
A full 3 months of vacation and plenty of time to look for other jobs.
Being sarcastic got me fired. Twice.
Nice.
Based tho
In my previous company, at about 9PM, about half the company got an invite for a 9AM meeting, and the other half for a 10AM meeting, we saw all the name in our invite of course. Let’s say the evening was hard, to guess which group was staying and which group was fired! I was in the “stay” group, this repeated every quarter and after 3 or 4 quarters it was my turn to be in the fire group, the next quarter they closed the company and fired the remaining employees.
The HR lady was like the picture.
She looked like Anne Hathaway?😯
Sending Anne Hathaway to fire me? I’ll accept that.
She looks odd to me. Ever since I saw the video to Black Hole Sun…
HR lady once spit a whole ass pack of lies about my work performance, and had cut off my email access so I couldn’t prove her wrong, which would have been trivially easy. Realized before I spoke up that if the HR director is lying this bad, there’s no reason to even try to “prove” I’m right, just a really toxic company.
Ready to be laid off, i can feel it coming considering the economy feels like its on stilts and my company scrapping the bottom of the barrel for projects to work on.
I don’t own anything and don’t have anybody.
Prepared for my NEET life.
If you don’t have anybody, it will be hard to be a neet. They are usually maintained by someone else (mostly parents)
Hope you will find a new job soon, It really sucks to find a job in these times 😞
Hmm, do we work at the same place? I can set you up with my old camping gear…
She looks like a whitewashed Victoria Newman from the boys.
She looks like that lady always smiling in severance
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yup
She looks like she married the founder of WeWork
Who, Anne Hathaway?
Gather round and attend my layoff time tale of woe.
I worked for this company for four years. They fell on hard times and, in place of layoffs, required employees to temporarily give up a portion of their salary on the condition it would be repaid within 2 years with interest, plus increased bonuses proportional with how much you sacrificed. I voluntarily gave up 20% as the company had never had a layoff in its history (no layoffs was part of their alleged culture) and all the old timers gushed about their massive bonuses after downturns like these.
I was given my quarterly review in October and I get a perfect score. I work three weeks, then am badly hurt on the job. It requires fairly major surgery, so I’m out for almost two months.
I literally limp back, probably a little too early. The first day is fine and I’m getting back up to speed. Boss shows appreciation to my dedication as I reasonably could have taken more time to recuperate. I tell her I need to discuss accommodations as I’m still healing. She agrees and sets an appointment for the next morning. Great job HamSandwich, everyone loves you.
I arrive to the accommodation meeting to find the head of HR and my boss. I figure HR is there to help with accomodations. Nope, I’m being terminated. For performance. Huh. I ask about my stellar review. My boss tells me there were issues. I ask about the issues. She is unable to give me any examples. I ask how I was supposed to know I had performance issues when I had a perfect review three work weeks ago and no one can tell me what I’ve been doing wrong. HR boss bitch pipes in with “Ham, at your seniority level you should just know.” Fuck you, boss bitch. Fuck you.
As I’m packing up my things, I realize they cut me one day before my yearly stock shares were to be awarded. Security walks me out and tells me I’m one of many senior level employees being terminated. People are being fired for showing up five minutes late. Upper level admins are walking out in protest. It appears this was the strategy: bank on the company’s good reputation to encourage increased voluntary salary cuts, then dump as many high earners as possible if still in a downturn. My boss is a spineless twerp and went along with it. She lies and tells the rest of the department I was terminated for sleeping on the job. Fuck you, boss. Fuck you.
The company had its first round of layoffs a few months later. Those employees also lost the money they gave up. The company’s reputation is irreparably harmed and I’m currently suing them for lost wages.
If a corporation asks you to take one for the team, don’t. “The team” will never take one for you.
I’m very sorry to hear that. I hope you win your lawsuit. Fuck those goddamn bastards.
Name and shame! That sounds like a horrid experience.
Ah yes, shaming shameless corp always works
Might save someone else a similar experience.
it’s not about shame, it’s about people going “Oh so that company sucks, let’s not work there”, resulting in the shitty company not having any fucking workers
Accurate
I got an invite for a meeting the next morning. I was like “they wouldn’t be that stupid, right?”. Well, they were. I had time to prepare something funny but I was disarmed by their stupidity.
Well at least its suspect enough to prepare :). I once came in at 9am and we had random people funneling everyone into a conference room with HR people to tell us our department would no longer be needed.
This is why Europe is awesome, if they do that here they owe you like 3-6 months of salary.
Damn Europoors hating their (HR departments’) freedoms.
They are free to fire anyone they like. They are however not free to ruin peoples lives.
3-6 months of salary.
…per year worked, depending on the country, but it’s more close to 2-3 months.
Not just Europe, Aussie here. I got the ol’ covid chuck and between lack of notice, untaken leave and long service leave (had been there over 8 years) it cost them $58,000
CANT YOU SEE HOW FREE WE ARE?!
Free to die you mean?
That HR lady is totally breedable.
I’m usually quite a big fan of not having any prjunddices against people just because they are part of a certain group, gender etc. But please just shut the fuck up. Why do some people (often enough men) simply have to think with their dick and be disgusting human beings?
This planet works on chaos and sex.
It’s being gross about it and referring to her like livestock that bothers me. Breedable. Yuck.
I’d rather these cretins point themselves out so I know who not to help if they’re on fire.
MegaBux Inc. bought our small ag-biotech firm in 2018. I had developed a high throughput product screening system for natural products against a bunch of animal diseases. The program worked and we identified a bunch of candidates (I also developed the list of things to screen) for botanical/natural solutions to animal diseases. I should have guessed that I was on the chopping block when after finding out some of the things we screened actually worked, I got replaced as PI on the project by someone else much younger. A couple months into 2020 all the folks at the R&D center (including me) got laid off. They did pay severance to us- and mine took me out to October of that year due to my longevity with the firm that was purchased. A couple months after that, a bunch of the junior staff (who were well trained in my methods) got hired back. I was almost 69 at the time, so it was probably time to retire anyway. I was very lucky. This is so familiar! At least I made my stack and can live comfortably on my SS and pensions.
high-tech solution for measuring and promoting old tech efficacy? investors looking at this “How is this supposed to make us more profitable as a company?” CTO in response “…We could sell the information to other companies… or even trade it with third parties like individuals, or even organs of government…”. Investors: “Interesting! We would need to be careful with how we would go about doing that, no?” CTO: “sigh Time to reorganize the department again. and this time I must be sure to purge the lead designer on the software, so they don’t form any attachments to the use cases of the sale or propriety of the resultant information from the project”
