Trump tweet:
It is my Great Honor to report that the United States of America now fully owns and controls 10% of INTEL, a Great American Company that has an even more incredible future. I negotiated this Deal with Lip-Bu Tan, the Highly Respected Chief Executive Officer of the Company. The United States paid nothing for these Shares, and the Shares are now valued at approximately $11 Billion Dollars. This is a great Deal for America and, also, a great Deal for INTEL. Building leading edge Semiconductors and Chips, which is what INTEL does, is fundamental to the future of our Nation. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! Thank you for your attention to this matter.
I expect all the ML people to be celebrating this move towards socialism. Such a shit move but a shit admin.
He just nationalized Intel. That’s what conservatives are afraid of far left governments doing.
Yup. They also rewrote national broadband funding criteria so starlink would win most of the state contracts for funding. If the states are stupid enough to take it, the Elon Musk will own their citizens internet. Colorado just announced Starlink won half of all the contracts and Amazon the other half(I didn’t even know Amazon provided Internet holy terrifying):
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Congratulations on your Freedom!
B-b-but Starlink doesn’t build infrastructure for normal broadband, does it? So they basically got a load of free money for doing nothing on a state level, just their satellites flying someplace above? I mean, there are Starlink ground stations, so there is infrastructure, just how many people would use it instead of a normal service. You know, GPON to the door, no antenna suffering in bad weather, no exorbitant prices.
Further, he killed all trust in Intel. Now, no one will believe that there are no government back doors into everything they make.
Intel is a us corporate they do as the US spooks tell them to do.
That’s national security laws.
There’s literally Intel Management Engine or how is it called.
And they are literally an American corporation that has always benefited from American governments pressuring competitors from other countries, and that was important for MIC since 70s.
So that kind of trust was a clear no since long before I was born.
Their biggest problem is that people don’t want to buy their stuff because it’s bad, they can worry about their backdoory image later
Honestly this. Their cpus melting down over the past couple years and their refusal to even acknowledge it hurt their image more than any potential backdoor could.
Intel never deserved trust. They rigged the game by cheating on benchmark tests and deserve the karma they are currently enjoying.
I guess the average consumer would not be very aware of Intel being so shitty, but now everyone has a reason to be wary of them.
Yeah… no one who this matters to thought that anyway. Either you get Chinese or US backdoors in your hardware. This has always been true. Theoretically Intel could make some backdoorless chips for government use though, but we won’t have access to that.
For real, this just further cemented me not wanting to buy any new Intel devices.
So true, I’ve officially bought my last Intel product, though I didn’t know it at the time… A shame cause I was interested in their GPUs at maybe some point in the future. From now on it’s either ARM or AMD. Can’t support a company (partially) controlled by a fascism regime.
Those worthless cunt traitors never acted in good faith. FFS, they willingly elected a child rapist.
“Nationalized” with a heavy dose of quote marks. The government now owns about 10% of Intel in non-voting shares. It’s basically meaningless.
I mean, no. Owning a 10% stake is not nationalisation.
Yes. It is.
Excalty like China.
China’s internal market is far more cutthroat and “capitalist” than that of the USA. And less regulated. And less monopolized, except for a few services which, ahem, are mandated (WeeChat, yes).
That was their “unique path”, to move all hierarchical stuff into political entities. It look interesting on a large scale, from more “peasant-oriented” communism, kinda changing the initial Marxist picture of worker-capital relations, to this.
NB: WeeChat and WeChat are different things
oops
Is giving Intel freekmey better?
10% is not “nationalized”. It’s “19.99% nationalized”. Need to have a majority stake (like 50.01%) to call it “nationalized”.
Or maybe I’m wrong.
10% is a controlling share. The government (Trump) owns enough to make major decisions about how the company is run.
By your maths it’s 10/50.01=19.99% nationalised, actually. :P
Yes, I’ve already fixed myself, it was sad
Right when I was thinking of buying an intel cpu and gpu to support the company and do my little part in helping increase competition in the cpu and gpu sector. Guess I will stick with amd this time around.
Now do that with Exxon Mobil, Chevron and ConocoPhillips
The United States will not seek direct representation on Intel’s board
If they want change, they don’t to vote on the board. They can just pass laws in Intel’s favour.
Taxpayers are now all Intel shareholders. I can’t understand what benefit this provides them.
Better than giving away billions of dollars no string attached
Are you happy now, communists? We’re nationalizing companies.
yeah I have no idea what the fuck is happening anymore. the GOP is full pedo-junta on business…
So, I haven’t checked project 2025, but there is a Christian nationalist plan that wants to take over everything called Seven Mountains Mandate. You can just read the link, but the idea is to take over what they consider all major parts of society, including business and have a Christian Dominion.
yeah they’re fuckin nutso too. fml
They don’t call it the The Immortal Science for nothin’
buying stock with the people’s money just in time for a recession
As far as government bail outs go, I think taking a portion of the company in exchange is an excellent idea. THIS orange asshole is doing it for all the wrong reasons, and will VERY likely fuck up literally everything about it, but the idea is sound.
I wonder what things would look like today if the government had taken some portion of control over all the auto manufacturers, airlines, banks, etc it has bailed out over the years instead of just giving them unsecured loans
you raise interesting questions. how do you stop some asshole president from using infinite taxpayer money to manipulate the price of a stock?
I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but they already do that with zero government money.
The same way SEC stops market markers from manipulating the stocks ;)
so they wont?
SEC is there to cover up corruption
I wonder what things would look like today if the government had taken some portion of control over all the auto manufacturers, airlines, banks, etc it has bailed out over the years instead of just giving them unsecured loans
Would look like normal capitalism of the early XIX century, give or take. Bad, but not atrocious. Bailouts definitely wouldn’t be abused as much, because, eh, they wouldn’t be free.
And the old argument that public sector management is inefficient - well, it’s not always a bad thing. It would then make sense for the government to re-privatize some of those shares, and use others for a source of income and a lever. And the companies bailed out this way would sink in power (which is good for competition), but not completely (which is good for their employees and economical stability). And, of course, I’ll repeat about source of income. Perhaps there will be no more raising taxes with such a system in place. Perhaps even some taxes it’ll be possible to simplify - any complex tax system works in favor of those who can afford to apply expertise, so those richer, and not poorer.
Also partial or full nationalization may sometimes work to good outcomes, while nationalized companies are less efficient, they also tend to retain institutional knowledge better, have more people working long on the same positions, follow labor regulations. For the telephone company or the train company or the central heating company or the public bus company it makes sense to be nationalized.
Years of failed management rewarded with government bailout.
I missed something, what did Intel get in return for 10% of their company?
Your tax money
The assurance that no matter how much they mess up, they will have government backing.
Somehow this is okay but bailing out GM was a problem.
i just got an amd card in response :)
Oh i’ve been buying AMD for a while because Intel has been rudderless for ages
i recently got an nvidia but then i switched to linux after and nvidia is so terrible on linux so this was a good push to get a new one. :)
CPU vs GPU, not really the same thing lol
if there’s one thing that I support less than american companies, it’s the american government
Why does he always close with “Thank you for your attention to this matter”? Does he think he’s got his big boy pants on or something?
I wish he would say, “And God have mercy on our souls.”
If you had been sued as often as this guy, you’d probably be muttering random legalese in your sleep and unconsciously letting it leech into your vocab, too
Until I read your comment, I thought this was satire and not the actual tweet. What in the fuck
Probably heard it once and thought it was cool or saw a couple of memes with it and now it’s his brain worm.
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so, AMD for me from now on then.
Yes, but also because they’re just better chips and you probably should have only been getting them to begin with. Way more power efficient, smaller process, less heat, easier to upgrade, better multi core performance, lower price; you just get a better CPU.
Note that better multicore perf is not true through the entire stack, because Intel chips have p core making them have better multicore perf in a lot of price-competitive offerings.
But the current platform is quite dead, you won’t get upgrades for it
P cores give them better single core performance. But in parallel computing AMD has the advantage and has defended it for a long time now.
I meant e-cores
Could you imagine how many times the word “socialism” would be blasted on Fox News if Biden did this?
It wouldn’t, they are one big criminal family after all.
You’re as bad as centrists/swing voters
I’m worse, I’m not ever voting at all in US elections. Being a Russian citizen and never having set foot in the US.
But they are one big criminal family. I mean, yes, in the 90s Clinton and the democratic party really had sort of a plan of battle, but they dropped the ball completely. It’s unfortunate, because had they not, maybe our world would really be similar to more utopian lines from sci-fi.
Say goodbye to 10% of your tax dollars
The United States paid nothing for these shares
Well that’s a good sign
