Baker’s testimony shows that Mozilla depends so much on its deal with Google for revenue that “the biggest loser of a DOJ win in the Google case would be Mozilla.”

  • pandacoder@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Boo fucking hoo. Mozilla isn’t a saint and could benefit from a shake up as well. Mozilla’s dependency on Google is dangerous for all of us.

    The biggest loser if the DOJ doesn’t win is literally everyone.

    I will bite whatever bullet I have to if it means the end of Google hegemony.

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      1 year ago

      Mozilla’s dependency on Google is dangerous for all of us.

      But as you can see above, people leave when they don’t use Google

      It’s a user issue not a developer one

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        Relying on monopolistic practices is an endorsement of monopoly as a practice, which is why Mozilla is no saint in this situation.

        Mozilla’s history is littered with poor business decisions that led them down the road to dependency on Google, they shouldn’t be excused from them now that a legitimate court case is a threat to their existence.

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          I don’t see how this case against Google is a threat to Firefox’s existence

          It’s not like they can lie under oath and say they left the contract with Yahoo that pays more to be with Google because they’re a Monopoly

          This playing into Google’s argument that they are the best is just nice for them

          I am aware that popularity and quality aren’t related at all though

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            if the judge ultimately sides with the DOJ and orders Google to break up its search business, not only could Mozilla lose revenue, but Baker’s salary could potentially take a big hit, too. Baker confirmed that her salary—$2.5 million in 2020—increased after the Google deal was renewed that year.

            According to Dyall’s thread, Baker also testified that she thought Mozilla might be forced into a “death spiral” if it is stuck partnering with Microsoft for search as an outcome of the trial.

            It’s their own assessment that it’s an existential threat, I’m just agreeing with it. Google is absolutely the biggest factor in their sustainability as a business.

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              Well that would be a pretty silly way of dealing with a monopoly

              Google should be broken up into many different search engines rather than just picking/choosing which browsers get which search engine