I’ve not tried it yet but that’s a long suspicious list of VC money for something hoping to be built opensource private p2p and decentralized
It is rare that everything app like this has a source code available to public. I’m immediately hooked, as someone who can’t wrap his head around making custom views in Obsidian and its open source alternatives. (For the love of Pete, frontmatters are just too demanding on syntax department!) Fork, stat! 😃
License doesn’t seem to step on your toes as long as you don’t distribute Anytype in exchange for something (w/ or w/o modifications).
I’m more interested in Affine.pro and AppFlowy that serve the same use case. Both will offer encryption, both FOSS.
There’s also SiYuan (E2EE) which is a FOSS version of Obsidian but it doesn’t ha e the database table feature that AppFlowy and Affine are developing.
Anytype has been hyped for at least 4 years now and I keep waiting for something useable, I think they’re wasting FOSS community energy.
I like affine.pro and appflowy but both were not really usuable last I tried them. The self hosted options are barely functioning so at the end of the day it’s just local. For a nice looking self hosted wiki I got outline working after tinkering for some time. Affine has been promising!
I’ve been jumping between pkms tools and still waiting for anytype to allow self hosting
Self hosted? Looks like everything runs locally, what is being hosted? Are you talking about the p2p relays?
yea should be that, currently i think the files sits with them therefore the 1gb limit but i could be wrong
They tout it being made ‘local first’ all data would then be stored locally so the user can access it offline. The 1 GB limitation is for paid backups which a user doesn’t have to do. If I wanted a backup, I could just share p2p share from my laptop to my PC for example. Both would have copies.
The p2p relay is a way to coordinate p2p connections, data doesn’t pass through them. Once a connection is made between my laptop and my PC data is transferred directly.
On the topic of the p2p relay it could expose IP addresses and device meta data. I’ve not done digging yet into the relays. But then again most DHTs do and even something like synthing has relays like this.
Wait do you mean I can sync it across my devices with p2p now?
Yep. I’ve not tried it yet. Finally came around to playing around with it though. What I noticed is by default it syncs to the backup and I can’t figure out how to turn it off yet. That said the files are decrypted locally with the keys made when the account is created. About to look more into the privacy policy.
thanks, let me dabble into it
This is still unclear for me to understand how sync works, because if it does not suit me, mo way I would be using it.
For example I mostly type on mobile, then when I open my laptop, the app will try to sync between my phone and my laptop, with their server helping establishing the connection? I don’t see how its gonna work well since both has to be online and have good Internet at the same time
No different than syncing to a server. Many video calls are implemented with p2p up to a certain amount of participants. Text is less demanding in comparison. I’ve not dived into the code yet but p2p relays typically just coordinate what IPs need to connect. In your case, once the connection is established the phone is directly transferring data with your laptop. No server in between.
Idk about their finances. But the app’s UI is beyond confusing.
Seems very strange indeed. Lots of buzzwords and confusing concepts
Will need to check the UI and post again. The buzzwords are directly speaking to remote work culture and a migration away from central services. The ecosystem, their plans to make money off that network are an interesting way to get ahead of those market movements. I’m not opposed but I am suspicious of it.
Skiff was kind if a disappointment when it came down to it. Using decentralized storage web3 privacy buzzwords but finding different ways to vendor lock and track.
I can chime in here as I was an early alpha tester. I like the idea of the app but it’s very “tag-centric” in that you have to tag content in order to create maps. This makes it hard to resurface content organically as in Obsidian or Logseq. I much prefer Obsidian; although it isn’t open source, my files are still portable.
I’ve been extremely interested in anytype for some time. It does however use a proprietary license, which can stymie growth and community involvement.
Does someone know what is their business model? How are they planning to make money?
In their FAQ they explain making money initially by offering paid backups. What’s interesting is their future plans, their vision of a cooporitive ecosystem or whatever, they make money off namespaces/domains, publishing/work contribution, in addition to the backups. This is of course if it gets engagement like notion, it will demonstrate ways to make money from an open network.
If you’re betting on the tech culture moving to decentralized services this could be a way to have a foot in it.
I literally just installed Zettlr after looking for open source Obsidian alternatives, and now there’s another one already?
