You should eliminate it. The experiences of animals are real and matter. Their suffering is identical in nature to your own. It harms us when we take pleasure in cruelty and violence.
Fuck the climate. As an analogy, not buying the products of slavery might have incidental positive effects on the climate or political situation in parts of the world, but who fucking cares when individuals are being subjected to massive suffering and trauma?! Surely that is more important!
Plus climate change. I mostly cut dairy and meat and substituted things and it’s kind of funny how going back tastes as weird after a period of time as it did when I changed away from it.
Great sentiment and all, but shit for all of us that have ibs (estimates are as much as 1 in 5 people). If I can’t have animal protein I’d literally die, or have such a shit quality of life I might as well be dead
I have IBS. Or rather, I did, when I consumed animal products. Granted we are all different and IBS is sort of a catch-all diagnosis without specific mechanisms, but if not eating animal products will literally KILL you (it won’t), you’re clearly not dealing with fucking IBS, you have some serious fucking problems.
Plant proteins are all fodmaps. Beans, lentils, peas, etc are some of the worst ibs triggers out there. If I eat any of those foods I’m in excruciating pain on the toilet for a week. Not eating any protein would kill me yeah. I guess I could try to survive on powdered rice protein isolate which is the only plant based protein that doesn’t fuck me up. But fuck that. More plant foods absolutely destroy me than not. Fruit? Forget it, that’s fructans. Vegetables? Sure, if it’s lettuce or something. Beans? Nope. Broccoli? Nope. Tomatoes? Apparently also high fodmap. Used to be low fodmap but Monash seems to have changed their mind. Sweet potatoes? You betcha that’s a fodmap. Garlic and onion? Oh yeah those are the worst triggers ever. Nuts? Absolutely brutal reactions as well.
I’ve lived wth this shit for a decade. At first I could tolerate some fodmaps in small amounts. Recently? It’s zero fodmap or I’m dying on the toilet.
I’m literally considering carnivore diet as a potential treatment. So yeah, all you lovely vegans and environmentalists are advocating for making my life either impossible, incredibly expensive, or excruciatingly painful.
Unfortunately I do. Anything that feeds gut bacteria messes me up. Antibiotics make me feel better for a bit but it always comes back. My only diagnosis is ibs, I’ve tested negative for sibo multiple times.
I used to be able to tolerate things like tomatoes and certain berries, even small amounts of lactose like in cheese. Little bits of garlic powder when used sparingly as a seasoning.
Tested for hydrogen and methane, unfortunately gastros just diagnosed it as ibs and don’t even test for sibo here. I paid out of pocket and worked with naturopaths to get it done, but they only had a glucose/lactulose test that wasn’t triosmart.
I’ve since developed histamine issues as well after having covid, so it’s been a great time.
You should eliminate it. The experiences of animals are real and matter. Their suffering is identical in nature to your own. It harms us when we take pleasure in cruelty and violence.
Reduction is also one of the best ways we can reduce climate change as it’s something that can often be reduced by choice.
Fuck the climate. As an analogy, not buying the products of slavery might have incidental positive effects on the climate or political situation in parts of the world, but who fucking cares when individuals are being subjected to massive suffering and trauma?! Surely that is more important!
Plus climate change. I mostly cut dairy and meat and substituted things and it’s kind of funny how going back tastes as weird after a period of time as it did when I changed away from it.
Great sentiment and all, but shit for all of us that have ibs (estimates are as much as 1 in 5 people). If I can’t have animal protein I’d literally die, or have such a shit quality of life I might as well be dead
I have IBS. Or rather, I did, when I consumed animal products. Granted we are all different and IBS is sort of a catch-all diagnosis without specific mechanisms, but if not eating animal products will literally KILL you (it won’t), you’re clearly not dealing with fucking IBS, you have some serious fucking problems.
Plant proteins are all fodmaps. Beans, lentils, peas, etc are some of the worst ibs triggers out there. If I eat any of those foods I’m in excruciating pain on the toilet for a week. Not eating any protein would kill me yeah. I guess I could try to survive on powdered rice protein isolate which is the only plant based protein that doesn’t fuck me up. But fuck that. More plant foods absolutely destroy me than not. Fruit? Forget it, that’s fructans. Vegetables? Sure, if it’s lettuce or something. Beans? Nope. Broccoli? Nope. Tomatoes? Apparently also high fodmap. Used to be low fodmap but Monash seems to have changed their mind. Sweet potatoes? You betcha that’s a fodmap. Garlic and onion? Oh yeah those are the worst triggers ever. Nuts? Absolutely brutal reactions as well.
I’ve lived wth this shit for a decade. At first I could tolerate some fodmaps in small amounts. Recently? It’s zero fodmap or I’m dying on the toilet.
I’m literally considering carnivore diet as a potential treatment. So yeah, all you lovely vegans and environmentalists are advocating for making my life either impossible, incredibly expensive, or excruciatingly painful.
Are you saying that you have negative reactions to all (or almost all) fodmaps? I thought people only have reactions to 1-2.
Unfortunately I do. Anything that feeds gut bacteria messes me up. Antibiotics make me feel better for a bit but it always comes back. My only diagnosis is ibs, I’ve tested negative for sibo multiple times.
I used to be able to tolerate things like tomatoes and certain berries, even small amounts of lactose like in cheese. Little bits of garlic powder when used sparingly as a seasoning.
Not anymore though
Damn. As someone with Crohn’s, I understand what it’s like, but that sounds way worse than my condition.
I’ve been thinking about doing a low FODMAP diet to identify any triggers, but I can’t imagine having to do it all the time.
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Tested for hydrogen and methane, unfortunately gastros just diagnosed it as ibs and don’t even test for sibo here. I paid out of pocket and worked with naturopaths to get it done, but they only had a glucose/lactulose test that wasn’t triosmart.
I’ve since developed histamine issues as well after having covid, so it’s been a great time.
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