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Another word for “marketing” or “advertisement” is Manipulation. Shady, manipulative, tactics.
Fuck them. I love Lemmy because it seems like the ratio of like-minded people is much larger here. Nothing better than seeing other principled people that would rather give up some comforts than deal with ads and bend the knee to the pieces of shit that try to push them.
Even products in the supermarket (such as bread!!) come with ads in the fucking plastic wrapper. I have changed my bread brand due to this. I will absolutely give up any comfort to avoid your manipulation. I will fucking shower in cold water if it means I don’t bend the knee to pieces of shit.
Another word for “marketing” or “advertisement” is Manipulation.
Don’t worry they’ve solved that, it’s called 🩷 𝐼𝓃𝒻𝓁𝓊𝑒𝓃𝒸𝒾𝓃𝑔 😎. That’s much less ominous! They just influence!
Well said. It disgusts me a lot, and it also dismays me to see a lot of people don’t care at all about ads. I even rememeber people in my old job talking about ads on tv. Boggles my mind.
If I am forced to see or interact with an ad I will do absolutely everything in my power to excise that ad source from my life.
It’s been a minute so I could be misremembering, but you’re not far off. Another word for public relations (the shaping of public opinion) is propaganda.
Edward Bearnays wrote a book titled Propaganda, where he talks about the need to rebrand the work of Propagandist after it became associated with negative influence during WW2. From what I recall he used the term public relations, but seemed to prefer the term propaganda.
He’s also the person infamous for convincing Americans that we should eat bacon and eggs for breakfast. Another interesting story is about how he advertised to make music rooms in homes trendy, so he could help sell more pianos.
He talks about some of the early manipulation tactics advertisers use. Such as trying to sell you an experience instead of a product. Think of how modern car commercials show a lifestyle more than they show you the car.
It’s an enlightening book that shows that before the war, calling an advertiser a propagandist wouldn’t be out of place. Those propagandist manipulated us into calling the PR now.
Oh, and if I recall correctly propaganda comes from Latin and means “to propagate.”
Advertisement makes me want that product even less.
The worse the product is, the more desperate they get to shove it in your face. Good products don’t need to pay others to pretend it’s good, you just find out via word-of-mouth or free trials
I was thinking about this just the other day. There’s a popular market in my home state, one I’ve been going to since childhood. It’s a single store, not a chain, and it’s almost always packed. I’ve never seen nor heard a single ad for it in my life. Naturally, that makes me like the place even more.
People say this but, if advertising didn’t work, companies would have stopped paying for ads long time ago. It works for them, we view ads and then we are willing to pay more for a product that is worth less; it’s this simple.
The only solution for us is to avoid ads at all cost.
Yeah - ads do work. The whole point of the surveillance ad system is to track how effective ads are. Companies can measure how many sales they get from their ads and calculate if they are still making a profit. And all those influencers peddling scam products with their special discount codes? People are buying those products.
I can’t obviously speak for everyone, I can only speak for myself. And I hate products that advertise.
Yep I actively avoid companies that inundate me. I’ve switched insurance companies because of it (local agent got me much better rates too).
So you’re telling me gaico doesn’t save as much on car insurance?
Usually they “save you money” by giving you a shittier policy and relying on the buyer not understanding what coverage they need and why
Interesting, the more I know now! Thank you!
Seriously going through an insurance broker is awesome. Best dang way to deal with insurance because I can just call up the broker and have them do it all for me, plus they get paid on commission by the insurance companies (which are mostly smaller B2B companies that don’t spend millions on advertising) so it’s not even like you pay more for your insurnace
My entire homelab is constructed with the unofficial goal of never watching any advertisements ever.
Same here. Glad to hear, that I’m not the only one.
I moved to Linux, use Freetube, LineageOS on the phone, listen all day to internet radios from the command line, browser with uBlock add on and it’s been years since I saw or listened an ad.
I would like to know more about this Internet radio command line thingy
It’s a script that I made some years ago. Give it executable permission and you can search (e.g. streema-cli jazz) play and save radio stations. I uses mpv. It loads saved stations when run with no arguments.
Try https://radio.garden/ or for TV https://tvgarden.net/watch-live/
Have a look at FMHY
Daaaaaamn, thanks for tv garden link
Ditto!
Yikes. I opened the web page and saw an ad. Started the radio, heard an ad.
No ads here , is your adblocker active ?
I had a VPN working, but I think android auto made me turn it off. Might need a better ad blocking system
Same, glad to hear there are others who found the path free from these parasites :)
Until, you know, you went outside.
The eternal pestilence of physical advertising. Our world will not truly be clean until Linux purges the sins of marketing from this Earth.
Incidentally, you might be interested in Cidade Limpa
Would that be the law everywhere.
They call me the Fastest Mute in the West
Invasive ads are my reference to not buying the product.
Someone should tell this poor guy about adblockers.
I run uBlock on top of a pi-hole, with invidious and de-arrow for youtube stuff.
I don’t see ads anymore.
And when I’m on a different device, where I can’t stop the ads, I simply don’t consume the content.
Ublock has always just worked for me? I mean, a couple of times YouTube did a thing, but then a day, or an hour later, Ublock fixed it. I’m referring to YouTube only.
Also, I run NoScript and choose whether I’m willing to allow a site to show me an ad, and slurp my data, in exchange for whatever is on the site that I think I want. Often, I get tired of allowing scripts one at a time until the content appears, and just close the site. Rarely, I’ll bite the bullet and allow all, then go and wash my hands afterward.
Fewer than ten sites make up more than 90% of my viewing.
Filterlist mainteiners are GOAT
Almost drove off with the gas cap and door open on my car cause I was doing my best to ignore the pump blasting some shit advertisement about some shit product I don’t want and wouldn’t buy. Wife caught it before I could drive off, but still, I will never voluntarily watch any form of ad. I loathe this world.
Mute button is on the right of the screen, second from the top.
Fucking hate those gas pump ads.
Not every screen has buttons. The ones by me all don’t.
Oh dang. That’s fucking bullshit. Around here they all have buttons. Wow. I hate capitalism
Yup, it fucking blows. I can’t even find the speakers on the ones by me, I think they’re behind the screen.
Almost drove off with the gas cap and door open on my car
I made it a habit to always glance in my side mirrors to confirm there’s nothing unexpected around me (including open doors or connected gas nozzles) before shifting out of park every time. Granted best practice is to walk around the car once as an inspection before even starting it every time, but that’s more than I often can be bothered to do
Not just personal mind poison, but societal poison too. Most of our media companies are just ad businesses with whatever they portray as their main products as window dressing. Meta, Google, NYT, all TV networks, even NPR is increasingly funded by ads. I was hopeful in the shift to paid streaming services this might change, and it did sort of, for a while, but increasingly they too are turning to ads.
Not just personal mind poison, but societal poison too.
i came to realize this when when my home built router died a few months ago.
it was based on pfsense and i had setup publicly shared advertisement blocking; so i hadn’t see any ad at all for years.
i became annoyed when i started seeing them after the router died and then i actively became angry when i was bombarded by them while watching tv as i was visiting family, yet they didn’t think anything was wrong with watching the same mcdonalds advertisement 500x in a single hour.
that shit has an impact on your psyche whether you know right away or not.
Yup. For me it was when I went on vacation with my family. Tried to enjoy a movie in the evening after a day out and my god. Ads every literal 7 minutes of movie. How the fuck anyone can deal with that is beyond me.
same here, i couldn’t finish watch the movie because i was so angry about it. lol
Ads? Ah, those annoying stupid things I watch in TV. Online I don’t see any of these since more than 10 years.
I find sponsor reads kinda funny. Its like we went back to dawn of tv. And speaking about statisfying, there is nothing more satisfying than a cool paul morrow cigarrete…
Even if you adblock and sponsorblock. Advertisement is everywhere. It’s on tv series and films as product placements. It’s on every bus stop, metro station, in the form of billboards, every casually on TV even muted still showing ads on the corner of your eye, or just company logos, even every single product you buy comes with a damn logo on it.
Bought a new pair of shoes, new headphones, new pair of fucking glasses? Which you need to wear everyday and can’t see without them? Enjoy being a walking billboard for everyone who looks at you.
This drives me crazy and yes, I do hide most logos I can with a permanent marker, and even then it’s not enough.
Besides, clothing without logos is more expensive than others.
Good.
Worth the extra price to not be enslaved as the corporation’s advertising bitch.
I made it a point to never wear or use anything with obvious logos most of my life. Want me to tell people my shirt is nike. pay me!
Pro tip
On youtube, if you get an ad that is related to either gambling or alcohol, you can block the ad and it will skip right to the video tou we’re watching
