• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    Like, I feel like what is going on in Israel will require a level of education like happened in post ww2 Germany. The only differences between the extermination camps of ww2 Germany and the effective extermination camp which Israel has turned Gaza into are the degrees of abstraction, and the fact that Nazi Germany at least had the shame to recognize that they were commiting a moral wrong and needed to hide it. It’s practically irrelevant that a genocide be conducted via bombs dropped on refugee camps or zyklon b: at least the Germans had the shame to hide their actions.

    I don’t see how the world can move forwards with the nation-state of Israel continuing as a Zionist project, just like the world could not continue forward with the nation-state of Germany as a Nazi project. It seems inevitable to me that an international coalition will need to come together to resist authoritarian and ethnonationalist fascism in all its forms, because it’s the only solution we’ve ever been able to recognize which can address these issues.

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      I’m expecting Israel to crumble as soon as international support dries up and the Zionists leaving to their country of origin using their dual passports. No justice or reducation, just a it all fizzling out.

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        I don’t think Europe could handle a massive surge in rightwing fascists returning to their country of origin. They’re already struggling to deal with the extremely minimal influence of rightwing idealogies as is.

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          7 days ago

          The rightwing Fascism in Europe is primarily driven by Zionists to begin with such as Tommy Robinson. Israel crumbling could actually help Europe in that regard.

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            They are suffering a enduring right wing propaganda campaign but they’ve also got an enduring social welfare state which makes it far more difficult for grievance politics to take hold.

            I used to think the campaign was largely out of Russia but I’ve since learn it’s a global far right project and much if this is actually Israeli being filtered through Russia. I really didn’t understand how deep the Russia Israel connection was until recently

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              Chabad is a very prominent Zionist group based in Russia. It all sounds pretty conspiracy and then you start seeing Chabad Rabbi’s on Fox News and Zohran Mamdani praying at the grave of the late Chabad leader after the Bondi shooting