• gmtom@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    If they can’t return to the country of their or their parents origin, then they need to go through the process of becoming legal citizens of Palestine.

    Having kids their does not entitle them to the land they were born on. Russia has occupied crimea for 10 years now, there will be thousands of Russians that were born there. Does that mean Crimea belongs to Russia? Does that mean Ukraine calling for its historic borders to be recognised is genocide?

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      11 months ago

      You do know that the ancestors of many Israelis are native to that area, yes? Why do they have less rights to the land and their culture than the other groups who live there?

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        11 months ago

        Other than the few that lived their during ottoman rule the vast vast majority of Jews immigrated after the mandate. So the only way they have ancestors that are native is if you go back some 2,500+ years.

        And if we want to do that than anyone can trace there ancestors back to Africa and you can excuse European colonialism in Africa the same way you are excusing Jewish colonialism.

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          11 months ago

          The vast majority of Sabra have ancestors who fled and were exiled from Muslim countries in the region. More than half of the Jews living there are Mizrahi, many have ancestors who are native to the area. An additional 20 % of Israeli are Arabs who have ancestors in the diverse ethnic groups who populated the area, long before the land was separated into Israel and Palestine.

          The separation between Israel, Westbank and Gaza is more a religious than an ethnic one. Since Gaza and Westbank want a pure Muslim state. But original the are la wasn’t pure Muslim. The ongoing conflict between the Muslim and non-Muslims groups in the area predates the separation and was one of the factors which led to the founding of Israel.

          The idea of European colonizers is just propaganda used to paint a black and white image of the situation.

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            11 months ago

            The idea of European colonizers is just propaganda used to paint a black and white image of the situation.

            Lmao you’re kidding right? Litterally the entire reason Israel exists is because of Britian and the UN wanting somewhere for their Jews to go, because they were still seen as a problem and they would rather have them in their own country than Continuin to live in their countries and now almost half of everyone in Israel is descended from those Jews that came from Europe and America.

            There is absolutely no way you can spin this story so doesn’t involve western colonialism.

            He’ll even if it was 90% none European descendents that wouldn’t mean anything. Plenty of countries in Afrjca were colonised but didn’t end up with large European populations. Does that mean the rush for Africa didn’t happen.