• doctorcrimson@lemmy.today
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    9 months ago

    Question: If Russia has no intention of fighting NATO then why would they give a fuck if Georgia joined NATO? If they were afraid of NATO invasion, as silly as that is, could they not just offer Georgia a similar mutual defense agreement? I cannot imagine any circumstance other than overt greed and expansionism that would require them to invade Georgia.

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      9 months ago

      Yeah it is all bullshit. All the Eastern European countries that could, joined NATO in speedrun, because they knew Russia will claim them back as soon as it is capable to do so. Ukraine and Belarus decided to maintain good relationships, and look at how it paid back.

      Russia is a cancer and the countries that hate them the most are their closest neighbors, exactly because they know what kind of cunt the Mother Russia is.

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      9 months ago

      Because that would remove Georgia from Russia’s sphere of influence. They could no longer de facto dominate Georgia and Georgia would already be armed if a conflict with NATO started.

      They do offer their own pact, called the CSTO, Collective Security Treaty Organization.

      I think that’s why they invaded Georgia, overt greed. To be fair that also plays a role in NATO expansion. NATO won’t accept a country that can’t pull its own weight unless it has some kind of strategic value or economic value. It must be worth defending.

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          9 months ago

          I never said they did. However they do insist that everyone participate in their “rules based trade system.” What happens to the countries that don’t want to participate or would rather have another trade system? What about countries that don’t want dollar dominance? It doesn’t go well.

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            9 months ago

            If you don’t follow the rules of trading then don’t be surprised if no one wants to trade with you. It is not our job to support you playing queen bee.

            And if you want to do your deals with some Banana Republic Monopoly Money, feel free to do so but be aware you have to pay higher prices as risk compensation if you want to trade with me.

            People don’t trade With Dollar and Euro because they MUST but because it is the most economical method. Stop believing the Propaganda of Left, Right and Islamo Extremists.

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              9 months ago

              Do you think the rules were made fairly? They weren’t, they were designed to entrench US dominance. Furthermore they’ve been weaponized to punish “competitors,” either rightly or wrongly. For this reason several countries are making moves to undermine dollar dominance, and it appears to be on its way out. Stick your head out of the Western media bubble and have a more objective opinion on the situation.

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                9 months ago

                Bro, whatever you have taken. Lessen it.

                The Rules of Free Market are not “made” but “accepted”. I know, for conspiracy paranoids this is hard to grasp but sometimes things are just the way they are by nature.

                And that Dollar and Euro dominate the financial market is nothing magic but simply the fact that they are free, stable, reliable and backed by huge industrial power. But feel free to use the Eritrean Nakfa instead to pay your bills. Tells us how well it worked.

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                    9 months ago

                    Talk like an adult, at least if you are one.

                    How well other currencies work we see in the Russia-India Trade Relations. Russia must accept India Rupies for which the Russians can not buy one single thing they actually need. And the Renminbi from the Chinese are forced upon them at an exchange course so far from reality that it is easier to buy dollars on the black market for Russia. Iran and Russia do not even trade in money anymore as both currencies are so volatil and non-usable that they now do barter trade.

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      9 months ago

      Do you think if eastern nations made a “defensive alliance” and included Mexico that the US would be fine with it?