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Cake day: July 4th, 2023

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    1. They arnt banning coal/wood fired pizza ovens.

    2. They are restricting particulate emissions not Co2 emissions. It’s not a climate change thing it’s an air quality thing. The pizzareias need to filter out the particulate, not get rid of their pizza ovens.

    3. Even if they were banning coal/wood fired pizza ovens it wouldn’t effect pizza. Pizza ovens get up to 900f and the pizza cooks in 90 seconds. There is no time for any smoke flavor to penitrate the pizza. A natural gas or electric oven is going to yield the same result so long as they hit that 900f temp.


  • Exactly, corporation and individual behavior is predominantly emergent of the system. Theres some blame that can be passed on to the consumer or the corporation but only so much, it’s not my fault I can’t afford an electric car. It’s not my fault installing solar panels on my house won’t recoup the cost by the time I leave/sell.

    If you want people to eat less meat you need to make it worth people’s while to eat less meat. You don’t need to outlaw meat, you just need to make it less attractive from a financial perspective.

    If you want people to use less gas you don’t need to outlaw gas cars you need to make it less attractive.

    You could write individual incentives and disincentives but a carbon tax is simple and hits at the crux of the problem. Remove beef, oil, gas, solar, wind, hydro subsidies and implement a carbon tax. Boom, meat alternatives are now cost comparable. Green energy is now handily cheaper than oil and gas. Theres also a sizable amount of conservatives who are for a carbon tax since it’s a “free market” solution instead of picking winners and losers.


  • That’s not the point I was trying to raise.

    My point was that people love to pile on anything artificial because they see it as unnatural and they claim it’s cause they just want to be aware of the risks, but those same people usually don’t know and don’t care that things they partake of everyday are also cancer risks and much higher ones than the artificial stuff.

    My point in asking OP was because id wager (and wanted to see) they didn’t know those were cancer risks and won’t change their habits or they did know but hadn’t changed their habits.