Actually I have it on good authority the candidates stance on the One China policy was the deciding factor,with AIPAC making attack ads equating her stance of opposing Chinese reunification with her opposition against the Israeli colonization and ethnic cleansing of Palestine,stating: Palestine is our Taiwan
Well,I didn’t say support,I said don’t create bad blood where there doesn’t need to be bad blood
I absolutely agree progressive voters,as they are,are absolutely not in “our” camp However,my point is that they could be in the future. I’m talking mainly about door knockers or callers and such,or even someone who takes time out of their day to convince those they know to vote for a candidate like this. These are people who could,if they woke up from their electorialist stupor, actually do good,they clearly show a commitment to actually doing something in the real world. My argument is that it’s pointless and self congratulating to dunk on them when they don’t attack you just to make yourself feel better. My point of view is that you’ll recruit from these people when they finally see that electorialism and incrementalism is a dead end. If that is the case,why veer into dunking on them when they eat shit like you eat shit everyday? They’re as powerless as you are. Some people like to couch their self congratulatory dunks as actual principled critique,that’s what I’m railing against.
Saying her foreign policy is dogshit wrapped in catshit wrapped with horseshit with a side of rat shit with sprinkles of guano on top is a valid criticism,but she is anti ice and decidedly anti Israel. That doesn’t mean you have to vote for her or even voice support for her ,but why rejoice when she loses to someone worse? Catharsis? That’s fine,I guess,I understand people need to let their resentment out,I’m just pointing out that to me at least,it’s a hollow and empty schadenfreude because it’s not like she lost to someone with actual principles,she lost to a pro-Israel guy.
For me,at least, progressives are one tier above the garden variety lib in salvageability. And they share some common principles. It’s perfectly fine if you don’t like them,but I just hate this idea that you’re actually doing this incredibly biting critique when you dunk on them,when in reality you’re just engaging in schadenfreude. I would be much less bothered if people were honest about that. There’s so many bigger demons out there,why pass the time ragging on people who ar least have some commonalities with you? Of course,if they attack first,it’s open season,no doubts about it,I’m just saying that if you don’t offer an alternative, starting shit doesn’t do anything but make you feel better about yourself.
Fun derived from what? This is pure schadenfreude that bellies no real win on your side. Let me clarify,I’m not pro Kat,hell I’m not even American,I just personally find this dunking childish. It’s clearly just reveling in the seemingly aborted progressive movement never getting off of the ground. And if they were the main obstacle to revolution in America, that’d be great!
Except they aren’t,and instead there’s a million worse existing ghouls who got a W. Wow,the AIPAC guy btfo’d the progressive neocon! That’s great,I’m glad you’re having fun,but I’m also at liberty to think dunking on people who you could bring over to your side,who clearly give a shit,and are mouldable into something workable is peak childishness. I’m not demanding you stop,I’m just expressing how this type of “fun” looks to me. Idc that she lost,but the people who gave a shit,could,with the right education and motivation actually do good. Now they ate shit, probably got demoralized or whatever.
Ok,you might think, they’re ripe for radicalization! Bzzt! Wrong! Because they’re American,they follow vibes more than actual conviction,they go online,see people to their left reveling in a loss they might actually a give a shit about and they check out. And Bam! you’ve done nothing but create bad blood where there didn’t need to be bad blood just to style on some fools that haven’t progressed as far in the journey to the left as far as you have, the saint of leftism,who was birthed out of an AK-47,suckled on the teat of Lenin and who’s first word spoken was “proletariat”. You,oh saintly internationalist, who’s first book read was Das Kapital and who’s first word written was calling someone a lib!
I apologize for the essay,which is not even wholly aimed at Hexbear specifically. I obviously don’t think this place is some secret haunt for electorialists who would get turned off by some comments. I completely understand that in the grand scheme of things, some snarky comments matter as much as her losing. It sort of just came out because it was something I had on my mind for a while. The paragraph above wasn’t aimed at you,to be clear,it was more of a subtweet at a certain type of person. I just find this infighting so empty and useless,why can’t people just leave well enough be?
It’s all so silly. If you (understandably) not like her,why not just…ignore the situation? Why do the anti electorialists,which I don’t even fundamentally disagree with, sometimes cheer on this stuff? Like oh, great! the NATO leftist lost!..to the pro Israel guy…
Ok, she’s a fake and a phony,fine,then why not just not give a shit about this? Instead let’s dunk on people you at least share some common principles,even if they’re naive, because what? Because you feel big and powerful dunking on the progressives? So,so silly to act like this is a victory in any sort of way. Are these people really the biggest enemies around? Really? Not the demonic nazistoid Republicans or the hollow democratic establishment AIPAC flesh puppets? It’s the people who you agree with, let’s say, 50% with instead of zero?
I’m not calling progressives the vanguard of revolution here,I’m just so skeeved by this tendency by the, let’s be honest,online left people (I doubt actual people who act in the real world care about getting some easy dunks on people who still care about elections) to act like some great wrong was righted when some person you disliked ate shit,even though they were,at least in the confines of the situation they exist,the less bad choice as some great victory when in reality nothing changed,things still are awful,but they got to feel big for a second for dunking on naive,but well intentioned people. It’s all so childish.
Imagine the term “trumpian victory” becoming the new phyrric victory
You just know he said that because he thought it was cool
There’s no thinking going on in that piece of meat in his skull marinated in the alcohol he has in lieu of cerebrospinal fluid
They should put a PokeStop there
Well,that’s not surprising at all
We have a saying: the bowed head does not get cut by the sword,which seems to be the guiding principle of the current people in charge
Such is life in the post socialist states
Well,I think it goes both ways,no? Sometimes people scold others about things they themselves have no control over. Though I agree,both actions have no real impact or consequence,I was merely expressing something I had on my mind for a while. And again,I just think it’s silly,it’s not indicative of anything more than a minor annoyance,I don’t dislike people who joke about it.