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I halfway was going to just drop it, but decided to come back and also explain it for any few that happened to trip across this time capsule of a comment years down the line, but see it on lemmy instead of kbin, and them getting confused about what I implied earlier

on some social media sites where you upvote yourself by default, it’s all fine and dandy since that’s the default and everyone already has their own - people looking over messages know it all beforehand and everything is upfront

on somewhere like kbin, where you have to go out of your way to do it, it can come off as manipulation to make a message appear to have a greater consensus than it would otherwise have. the next step up, and in definitely-ethically-dubious territory, is having multiple accounts to upvote yourself to boost your message

early upvotes/downvotes makes others that are quickly passing by a message feel more comfortable piling on one way or the other; group psychology is funky like that. it’s also a way some bad actors social engineer the system to get what they want seen to be seen, while burying others. I’m not saying you’re doing any of that beyond upvoting only yourself, but maybe this all explains a little better on the reasoning about its sketchiness on upvoting yourself on specific social media that don’t give a self upvote by default. It’s not a god-awful thing to do since a single vote is mostly innocuous, but it also isn’t a good look when someone looks into it and spots it

that’s at least a little more than mildly infuriating

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribalism
it’s going with the “us vs them” mentality mentioned in the post. and I see you with your self-upvote there, I really love kbin for that transparency

[tosses you out of the kidnapping van]

you either agree with me, or you’re in the other tribe

I think you misunderstood what I said, I’m agreeing with you on the mental gymnastics, but the argument you put out wasn’t exactly the best when given to the PoV of the gymnast; they’re avoiding ingesting tap water in favor of bottled, but they ingest it regardless, unless they wash everything with bottled water like a very crazy person

and didn’t expect to respond again about this crazy hypothetical person that lives rent free in both our minds, but I’m going to evict that person right now for my own sanity

to the ackchyuallies here: I know, but relax and enjoy the mental image of the fiction

I’m not defending bottled water, but in regards to the shower argument, there’s a reason things are rated for topical use vs food grade

the better argument is someone drinking bottled water while using tap water to wash their foods

and no other prints around, so the cat came out and, of course, immediately went back in

same deal with the ones with matching the orientation of something with a given direction being pointed at; it’s training 2d-to-3d AI image generators

another reason I heard is it’s also another tool to give the company wiggle room to say they’re not in the best state they could be, that there’s still room for growth. under the current system, companies have to keep growing and keep appearing to have the potential for growth, or die

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okay, I’ll concede, my scope also was pretty limited. I still stand by not trusting the public with deciding what’s the best use of AI, when most people think what we have now is anything more than statistics supercharged in its implementation.

I remember seeing that some asian countries included plastic finger condoms with their chip bags. But that increased 0.0001 cents of added manufacturing cost per bag/can is too much for the rest of the world, best they can do is add more air in them.

you also don’t have to understand how 5g works to know it spreads covid /s

point is, I don’t see how your analogy works beyond the limited scope of only things that result in an immediate loss of life

Multi Track Drifto

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and, a final thing to add, I haven’t come across any concrete evidence IronSource created malware since being caught, and haven’t seen any concrete evidence of Unity containing malware. I just assumed they merged with them for the spyware and analytics software they fostered since then. Don’t get me wrong, I really don’t like Unity’s business practices, but I don’t want to hate them based on what could be lies spread by motivated actors.

oh, I’m pretty aware of the entire saga up to now. and the malware company created a malware suite in 2010, after which they did the typical PR spin of disavowing personal responsibility for by stating it was bad actors, and has kept their heads low in scummy digital advertising practices for about a decade up until 2022 when Unity brought them aboard to “synergize their tools” (paraphrased by me from the original announcement).

The current CEO was an ex-exec at EA that was taken on board at Unity at 2014, and another EA ex-exec also came over as Unity’s CFO in 2015 (who was replaced for ambiguous reasons sometime before 2020). 2014 was around the time when they made many small scummy changes, like stop giving out lifetime licenses and altering the ToS in regards to existing lifetime licenses, and minimize dev support for recently-expired subs, while at the same time starting their pattern of frequent smaller updates to the engine after moving to Unity 5 - instead of larger, less-frequent ones (to work into their minimization of expired-sub dev support). It was around the time I swore off their engine after spending years of my life on it.

If any of this is wrong, I’d appreciate being corrected with more updated info - The CEO stuff I’m acutely aware of, but the IronSource+Unity stuff was only tangential to that for me, and after I already cut ties. I just don’t like bringing all this up so frequently from how topical it’s become recently; it’s a sore spot.

Kiryu facing his internal demons in Silent Hill would be a chaotic mess of tonal dissonance. I need it.