Thanks for the suggestion!

This is definitely in the vein of what I’m interested in, however real-time mechanics as you mention, “Each action (like sending a ship to a location) typically takes an hour or two to finish.” are never to my tastes, even if the game is wholly built around them.

Still, I’ve read some amusing stories produced from games of Subterfuge, so at least I’ve managed some secondhand entertainment from it!

@Rai ? I glanced at the store page for it and it says network connection not required, so it’s not always online, which fits my preferences.

However, that was the Steam version, maybe mobile is different & what you had in mind?

@ItalianSkeletonGaming @games not sure how well alt text federates, so for those wondering the games in the image are Jump4 (top) and ParaPerspective (bottom)

Haven’t gotten around to trying any demos yet personally, but ParaPerspective looks like my kinda game as someone that enjoyed Echochrome

I agree, and strive to remain cognizant of how both game size and digital only games serve to widen the digital divide.

Appreciate your reply compelling me to elaborate, as without I see where it can read like, “why not redownload several 50+ GB games” which unfortunately is increasingly people’s situation with games. 😟

It’s decent enough to consider it, I’ll give you that.

Something worth adding, I think:

I mainly play smaller games (like ≤ 10 GB, often below 5 GB at that), with few bigger ones in the mix, which is why I even considered this method.

Also back when GOG Galaxy was being introduced, GOG had fewer big games, I think. If not then it’s that I lean towards smaller and older games in general.

@JulesTheModest Er…How do you mean? The Galaxy app has its issues, but I’ve not run into this one.

Biggest issue I ran into was years back trying to point it to my existing directory of GOG games from before Galaxy to get it to recognize them without reinstalling them, but eventually I just decided to reinstall whenever I felt like playing them again (and uninstall from old location).

I think I may have it wishlisted, so I’m definitely trying to keep an eye on it. Waiting till it’s fully released so I don’t feel compelled to play it more like pseudo-QA and enjoy it less though

Thanks for the suggestion!

It sounds kinda familiar, but I don’t know if I have or not. I’ll have to look into it!

I’m also bookmarking Worlds Apart to check out later, so thanks for both suggestions!

These are solid suggestions for sure! I still need to get around to the rest of the Dishonored series past the first and finish Prey.

Immersive sims I think are pretty close to what I might be wanting, but they’re unfortunately not that common, and some have RPG elements I don’t find enjoyable. The Arkane games you mention pretty much avoid them last I checked though, and I dig’em for it

I have, a little, and have enjoyed those I’ve played, but I’m also fond of more visual art in games, so on the text heavy front I lean towards point and click adventures and visual novels more.

However like yourself, I tend to think I should play more of them, see what they experiment with and push boundaries on.

Btw you might check out The Trackless if you like interactive fiction. It mixes some light text parsing with a 3D adventure game, making for a unique experience.

Right, as I mention though, from what I recall they didn’t always have cheats, or necessarily the sort I might want like removing random battles for the games with them.

I use Steam, but I also go for games outside of Steam, which is what my message was indicating. I’m into first/third-person puzzle games, for sure.

Not much of a fan of Bethesda’s style of RPGs (given you asked in another comment). They’re too buggy/unstable in my experience, but also plainly RPGs.

@Donjuanme Yeah, you’re not wrong. The trick is, “games these days”, which I enjoy a fair amount of, but I’m also interested in games from across time, so older titles as well.

Those are a little iffier to play given some lack the settings or options, and sometimes also any cheats. Do you happen to know of any sites/resources advising how to use emulators to sorta do that for older titles?

Alternatively may need to review which old titles I have that have cheats for that kinda thing…

Yeah sorry, I ran into limits from where I’m posting (Mastodon).

Some reference points might be like Outer Wilds (nice mix of story & interaction) and going back a bit, games like Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee, Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, and Mega Man Legends.

Each have a certain sense of place and an enjoyable degree of interaction in terms of either roaming around or trying to figure out how to get around.

Your initial claim remains false.

As indicated, digital game storefronts offered refunds explicitly prior to Steam, and it wasn’t leading the way, especially given its policy was that all purchases were not refundable, up till 2015’s changes.

Leading the way isn’t making some exceptions to their policies occasionally, it’s making refunds a part of the policies from the outset when others aren’t.

@Kedly What? This is flat out untrue. Back in 2008 Stardock’s attempt at a storefront via Impulse offered refunds: https://web.archive.org/web/20080708091849/http://tgnforums.stardock.com/315290

Later in 2013, EA of all companies would also offer refunds on their storefront, Origin: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/08/ea-begins-offering-refunds-for-its-digital-game-sales-on-origin/

And later that same year, GOG would offer refunds: https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/gog-s-new-money-back-guarantee-is-more-about-trust-than-refunds

It was only a couple years after EA & GOG, in 2015, that Valve began offering refunds on Steam: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/06/valve-begins-offering-refunds-for-all-steam-games/

Not OP, but I hadn’t heard of Tempest Rising before! I’ll have to keep an eye on that, thanks for mentioning it!

arrested for photographing some abandoned urban environments 😅

honestly that doesn’t seem too much of a stretch

Game was Interior Worlds btw for any interested.

Not to mention, sometimes they actively take away from the art direction. You can have a game that’s clearly going for semi-realism and yet keeps damage numbers flying off like it’s a comic strip, which doesn’t fit whatsoever.

The strangest, funniest mixture are the games built off comic licenses that employ a semi-realistic style with damage numbers, when a better combination would be stylized so it would all fit better artistically.

This is a great point (as well as others that have mentioned similar). I wonder if some of the old arena shooters from around then (or their open source offshoots) may handle just as well today, considering that.

I’ll have to look into those that are still active and see! Thanks!

Servers may be some of the issue, but the problem then is that a number of games, at least outside of MMOs, don’t seem to give much of a choice on that. Presumably they’re trying to connect to servers that should give a good experience, but… 🤷‍♀️

Regardless, the intent here isn’t so much to troubleshoot networking issues, as it is to find games that may handle less reliable/rougher network situations decently, as much as is really possible anyway.