• 3 Posts
  • 768 Comments
Joined 10 months ago
cake
Cake day: January 27th, 2025

help-circle
  • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.netto196@lemmy.blahaj.zoneRule
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    18 hours ago

    I don’t think there’s some central antinatalist org yet, but there are smaller organized groups. I first encountered the whole philosophy when a group called Stop Having Kids put up billboards and tabled on the street here in Portland.

    I think your stance on childbirth is fine, it’s the same as mine. It’s a decision for ourselves that we don’t feel we’re prepared to equip a new human to operate in the world when it’s in this state. But take our stance and make it an organization, if it’s anything more than a support organization for people who’ve already made that choice then it’s going to be about telling others to not have children too, and arguing that they’re doing an ethical wrong by having kids.





  • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.netto196@lemmy.blahaj.zoneRule
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    arrow-down
    9
    ·
    edit-2
    3 days ago

    I know several new dads who would be absolutely livid at the thought of someone calling them “selfish” for what they’re currently submitting themselves to XD

    A lot of us had shitty parents and find it easy to transpose those traits onto all parents. But there at least as many parents out there for whom it’s absolutely the largest sacrifice they’ve made in their entire lives. It’s them pouring all of their collected love, knowledge, and material means onto someone else so that they don’t leave this Earth having only taken from it.

    And if their kids grow up anything like me, they’ll be grateful for that choice and happy to be alive.


  • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.netto196@lemmy.blahaj.zoneRule
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    3 days ago

    I actually meant to reply to the comment above you but I’m just as happy to reply to you! So I guess to add regarding what you asked about people using it as a guise for eugenics, I actually don’t think antinatalists are doing that, generally. Antinatalists aren’t villains, and I think they mostly mean well. They just have a lot of resentment, absent a fully matured leftist framework to guide those emotions into socially healthy advocacy. Which makes them sitting ducks for any actual villains looking for a demographic to coopt.



  • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.netto196@lemmy.blahaj.zoneRule
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    arrow-down
    9
    ·
    edit-2
    3 days ago
    • Emotionally-founded movement masquerading as ethically-founded
    • Driven primarily by resentment
    • Distinctly Malthusian
    • Condemns a fundamental process of biological life
    • Primarily advocates abandoning the world before improving it
    • Adherents frequently direct their anger at mostly non-political actors

    Yeah it’s disturbing that you’re getting so many downvotes simply for being bold in your stance here. I mean I do understand why… There are strong and often unexamined emotions at play here. But it’s still disturbing. Antinatalism isn’t eugenics but it sits right next to eugenics in a logical process. It’s positions on ecology and it’s emotional social resentment place it on a pipeline to fascism.



  • Billionaire Mike Bloomberg cut down on traffic in Manhattan by closing off streets

    That was his transportation secretary Janet Sadik-Khan’s idea, give her credit! She was the brains behind all of the Bloomberg safe streets / cycle network stuff. And she did it on a shoestring budget. He gave her a few million bucks for paint and she created hundreds of miles of bike lanes.





  • Yeah it seems like there’s a shocking amount of “telling people their preferences” in the LGBT community. I had a girlfriend who insisted I wasn’t straight just because she had a penis. As if her getting bottom surgery would have retroactively certified me as straight again.

    Like anyone who tells people something that only that person can know for themself, it’s usually more about their need to be comfortable within some unresolved dissonance they have, rather than wanting to help resolve something for you.


  • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.nettoADHD memes@lemmy.dbzer0.comYup. Not fun.
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    15
    ·
    edit-2
    4 days ago

    In the case of my autism I was fortunate enough to not reflect it back on myself in most cases and instead was just frequently frustrated with how shockingly fickle, arbitrary, flighty, shortsighted, and ethically inconsistent other people seemed to be.

    My mom did her best to turn it inward by always telling me I was “too judgemental” but she had already raised me with enough confidence and privledge by that point that instead of crushing my spirit it just made standing up for myself extra frustrating.