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Why? Advertising was a thing way before digital data collection and personalized ads was a thing. Let’s imagine a current world where data collection was illegal. Do you think Google would make no money in this scenario? I am pretty sure they could still sell ads even if they were doing no personalized data collection. They could sell these ads based on where those ads could be displayed. So, instead of advertisers targeting specific demographics based on their personal data, they would instead choose what kinds of websites or search results they would like to display their ads in. Problem solved, no?

It seems like you are either too young to remember this, or maybe forgotten about it because of the norm we have been living in for so long, but internet existed way before personalized data collection, screw that, way before even Google was a thing, and we were still able to use the internet. Who do you think trained all these slop genarators if not the pre-AI small hobbyist and enthusiast websites that shared their knowledge with the rest of the world, usually for free. Hell, you are literally on a decentralized network of forums, most of which has been running by people paying for the costs themselves, or with the help of donations.

I would argue, something as essential as an email address should be a government provided service, since you can’t even login to your online government services, or can’t even open bank accounts without one.

How is this not about data collection? Why do you think Meta is collecting data about teens mental conditions? It’s definitely not the teens that are telling Meta that they are depressed themselves. No, instead Meta spends millions on researching human psychology, just so they can come up with whatever fuckep up algorithm that will enable them to gather that data.

Back in the day, when you went to a website, you would either see ads that are somewhat related to that website, or you would see ads that are completely random. Now, thanks to data collection, advertisers can exploit your personal habits or medical conditions to exploit you. Thanks to data collection, the US government can track womans period cycles to track if they are possibly pregnant, and if they might have had an abortion.

Who do you think is going to do the regulation? The money hungry corpos? Or the same US government that is currently hunting anyone who don’t agree with them?

You are fundamentally wrong about data collection being a separate issue then how that data is used. One does not exist without the other.

Here is 1. How Meta exposed vulnerable teens to get expolited by advertisers:

https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/latest-news/meta-allegedly-targeted-ads-at-teens-based-on-their-emotional-state/

Oh its not new? Tell me, when was the last time that enough of you voted independent /3rd party to win the elections? Oh, it never happened? An independent winning seems like a new thing to me then, for once. “Oh but it’s not realistic for independents to win, there will be never enough people voting for them”, well then how the fuck do you expect them to win if you do not vote for them, because no one will vote for them. Do you not see this infinite loop that only seem to work out for Democrats and Republicans? Do you not see how they both want to keep things this way and therefore will never change anything meaningful?

You also seem to forget that a 3rd party DID BEAT a US major party before, coming 2nd place. Maybe not good enough for a win, but apparently its possible to beat a major party, when enough people vote for you. Funny how that works out.

You guys keep calling people traitors for voting differently than you, you keep putting not voting and voting for independents in the same bucket. You keep calling people naive and idealist, you keep belittling people’s convictions pretending to be a progressive. You say its not realistic to vote outside of Democrats (or Republicans) while ignoring the fact that our reality fucking us all anyways. Go keep being complicit in the system that allowed all this to happen if that’s whats going to keep your conscience clean. Or maybe you are just happy as long as the republicans don’t win, but then just accept the fact that you are just trying to do the bidding of your democrat daddies instead of pretending to not be happy with them either. I guarantee you will have more success trying to convince people.

Its such an American response to be like “you guys don’t understand our system” thinking you are so special. I have lived in a multi party system that had the same party winning for 26 years. My fascist dictator was ruling over me way before Trump even knew what politics was. And you know what? We have the exact same arguments about wasting votes if you do not vote for the main opposition party.

I am not saying it does not matter. I am saying that you (and people like you) can’t keep doing the same thing and expect shit to change, and then put down people who are actually trying something different for once. You can’t keep supporting the status quo and then act all high and mighty because other people are actually sick of watching rich bureaucrats fight over who gets the bigger slice of the pie.

So what’s the plan? Are you hoping the Democrats will win every single election until the end of time? Talk about being naive.

I thankfully don’t live in US and have been financially protesting USA since the 2nd time Trump was elected. I also don’t need your help in learning what protesting means as I have breathed in enough tear gas to learn that lesson myself.

Sure, go vote Democrat. I am sure its their turn to rule anyways so that the capitalis war between the monarchs and the oligarchs can balance itself once again. I am sure they will take care of Trump (or whoever their next chosen prophet is) THIS TIME. They were so helpful last time they were elected doing jack shit for 4 fucking years. Then losing to a fascist clown just after 1 term. You live in this fantasy that these incompetent rich bastards will somehow save you, and it won’t be the same shit all over again in another 4 years.

Keep showing Democrats that no matter how disconnected they are from the American public, you will keep voting for them. Why? Because, it is the most important election in the history of America. As if you weren’t saying the same shit for however many years now, and as if you won’t say the same shit in the future. It will never be time to vote for 3rd parties. God forbid some people have other beliefs then “left of far right” party and want to show their support for candidates who represent themselves better. God forbid you might send them a message and ask for meaningful change by actually showing them that you do not support them.

If you vote Democrat just because they were better than Conservatives, congratulations, it means you were duped by the establishment or don’t understand how your election system works and the inevitable binary outcome that comes with always doing the same shit over and over again and believing something will somehow change eventually.

Ah yes, because voting for Democrats for all these years clearly worked out great for you right? The same democrats who did jack shit to Trump during their term, and lost to him just 1 term later, making him only the 2nd US president to ever win an election non-consecutively. Keep believing doing the same shit you did for years will eventually change something. I am sureee it will be different this time.

You are arguing that 3rd parties will not win. How will they ever win, if nobody votes for them because they will never win?