• snooggums@midwest.social
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      5 months ago

      As long as Ukraine wants to defend themselves against Russia I support their choice to do so and wish my government would provide even more support for them to do so.

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          Have you ever questioned why there’s always a new crisis that makes Raytheon execs rich, but mysteriously leaves nothing to spend on civilians here at home?

          Imagine thinking that’s why we don’t have well-funded social services.

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          In 2020, when corporations that had just received three years of outrageously large tax cuts and stock buybacks were frightened of losing revenue, the Repub government fabricated trillions of dollars in handouts to pass around with little to no oversight.

          It is not the spending on Raytheon that is preventing spending on citizens at home. It is that half the country has oppositional defiant disorder about any service or policy that would help poor people.

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              Never said there wasn’t.

              I’m just pointing out that you don’t even know how your own government works, that is, if you’re even American.

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                  Gee, I didn’t know not being American means you’re automatically Russian. Either way, you’re intentionally missing the entire point of my replies. You don’t know how your own government works. Helping Ukraine in no way is draining tax payer money, ya dunce.

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          And this is why we never have any money for investing in domestic programs to improve anything. If it’s not Korea, it’s Vietnam, if not Vietnam, it’s Kosovo, if not Kosovo, it’s Iraq, if not Iraq it’s Afghanistan, if not Afghanistan, it’s Ukraine. Have you ever questioned why there’s always a new crisis that makes Raytheon execs rich, but mysteriously leaves nothing to spend on civilians here at home?

          It’s absolutely not the reason lol. The reason you can’t invest in domestic programs like universal healthcare or post-secondary education financing reform is because half of your fellow Americans oppose it, and vote accordingly. Convincing others matters.

    • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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      You know, every time this topic comes up I just sit back and remember how well appeasement worked last time. You remember, with that toothbrush mustache guy? Boy, I’m sure glad capitulating led to nothing happening after that!

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          Good thing Ukraine isn’t Russia, then, and that the war is happening in Ukraine. Afghanistan, ahoy!

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              Ukraine isn’t mountainous terrain that’s hard to navigate both on foot and with even modern aircraft. It isn’t a subsistence economy that has been at war for a thousand years. It isn’t home to people who made a life raiding into India for women and livestock, fierce mountain vikings, even before becoming the graveyard of empire as they cut their teeth on three world powers in a row, getting stronger with each they drove out, generation by generation. These are farmers and programmers and project managers, who are dying in trenches on a flat field as surely as the Flemmish before Germans in WWI, and yes, the line can hold forever, but it takes X lives every day to make that happen, and there’s no endgame where Russia gives in, because it needs the fresh water from the non-Crimea shit to hold Crimea, which has no rivers, and their whole Black Sea naval operation is out of there, and they’re not going to cede the whole Black Sea.

              What absolutely bizarre hagiography.

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          Yeah I’m sure the West is planning a massive land invasion of Russia in the middle of winter, you figured it out.

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      Russia might think they will win, but it will rather be NATO against Russia than Ukraine losing.

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      Win eventually? Lol. Russia already lost. Their 2 week battle plan to take over Ukraine and dissuade other countries from joining NATO has turned into a two year conflict that has caused multiple neighboring countries to submit NATO applications. The absolute best Russia can do at this point is get a bit of dirt.

      Their military has already been downgraded from a near peer to a peer at this point. It used to be The US, China and Russia. Now it’s just The US and China. Their economy is in shambles and they’ve resorted to cooking the books to pretend it’s not. Russia already lost.

      Think about this in the future when this war is over and you start claiming that it was a great victory for Daddy Putin because they end up being able to annex a few kilometers of unusable land.