• shadowSprite@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Last election I got to vote for “grab 'em by the pussy” or “black kids are just as good as rich kids” (or something similar. I can’t remember the quote exactly and I don’t have time to look it up).

    This election I get to vote for genocide or genocide. I can’t wait.

    Edit: I’ll take Biden over Trump any day. Trump terrifies me. I’m terrified of how many Americans are going to die if he wins. But I hate that these are our options.

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      8 months ago

      One of these people was trying to do some good and made a verbal fumble probably caused by years of conditioning that got him where he is today and yes, old people say stuff like this by accident. He probably does have racist thoughts that he knows are bullshit but were put there by the shit job older generations have done in building society.

      The other guy is a raging psycho who echoes Hitler phrases in his speeches.

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      9 months ago

      Maybe vote to stop genocide of people in the country in which you live over a genocide that would happen whether or not Biden was in office because Trump would support it too.

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        8 months ago

        Show me the current genocide of queer people in america.

        Show me 1000’s of queer people being starved, left without power, medical help, water.

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          Show me the current genocide of queer people in america.

          The same place the genocide of queer people in Germany was in 1932. Do you know what happened in 1933? Do you know what happened between 1933 and 1945?

          But please, do tell me who I should vote for that has a statistically likely chance of winning the U.S. presidential election in November and will also definitely end the genocide in Israel. Give me that name.

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            8 months ago

            Idgaf who you vote for.

            Once again, you do you, but don’t come to me wanting my vote to help you re-elect Ol’ Genocidin Biden.

            I’m not here to stop you, I am here to make sure everyone realizes they are supporting someone who has ACTIVELY helped Israel commit genocidal actions.

            Not passively, he bypassed congress twice already to send them more fucking shells.

            You are once again hung up on what someone might do compared to what they know someone else is doing.

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              Idgaf who you vote for.

              Because you don’t care about queer people.

              but don’t come to me wanting my vote to help you re-elect Ol’ Genocidin Biden.

              Because you don’t care about queer people.

              You are once again hung up on what someone might do compared to what they know someone else is doing.

              I’m sure you think that because you don’t care about queer people.

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                  It’s not an excuse, it’s a fact.

                  You think a moral victory that will in no way stop any genocides is more important than stopping a potential genocide that is just as possible as what happened in Germany in 1933.

                  You do know what happened in Germany in 1933, right?

                  For example, in May, this happened: https://www.hmd.org.uk/resource/6-may-1933-looting-of-the-institute-of-sexology/

                  And by 1939- before the Holocaust, before war even broke out, there were tens of thousands fewer gay men alive in Germany than there had been in 1932.

                  Did you even know about any of that that? Probably not since you don’t give a shit about queer people.

                  But in 1932, you would have told me that’s okay because even if Hitler does get in, queer people and the people that love them shouldn’t worry about any potential genocide, and besides, Paul von Hindenburg did nothing about Stalin’s genocide in the Ukraine and maintained friendly relations with Stalin, so if you vote for Hindenburg, you vote for genocide.

                  And yes, I am comparing the guy who kept a book of Hitler speeches by his bedside and quotes Mein Kampf to Hitler.

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              The whole phrase ‘bypassing Congress’ is propaganda. It’s literal weapons sales. Those are not required to go through Congress. I disagree with those sales, but what he’s doing is perfectly legal and not backhanded.

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                It is legal, it is backhanded, and to add onto it. I believe he ran it by Congress later on, and they okayed it.

                That doesn’t change the fact that he did it, and bypassed congressional oversight.

                We can’t be OK with someone else being what we don’t want them to be this because they’re on our side.

                If you don’t call out your own side, just as much as you call anyone else’s, then it just doesn’t matter.

                Why are we all calling out Israel so much but aren’t surprised at what Hamas?

                Because one is so obvious that it doesn’t need to be fucking done, and the other is people that we thought were going to be better than that being so much worse than we thought they were.

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                  8 months ago

                  I am not saying it’s okay. In fact, in the comment you replied to, I said I don’t approve.

                  We need laws to prevent this sort of action.

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      8 months ago

      I can’t believe anyone is so fucking willfully ignorant they can’t see how much worse Trump is, but here we are.