10 Reasons You Should Switch From Chrome to Firefox.::The best browser sync out there.

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    8 months ago

    11: It’s the only browser on the market that is not either apple webkit or google chrome based. And it’s in our best interest to keep said market healthy, with as many competing actors as possible.

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      At some point there were more than 1 relevant browsers using Gecko, though. Somebody at Mozilla decided to gloriously triumph over allies by killing XULRunner and not offering a replacement.

      Not sure if WebKit is such a bad choice in that context.

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        The Tor browser is still Firefox based. Not a large niche, but being THE preferred way to browse with Tor makes it on its own imho

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            As it should be. But honestly unless there needs to be a change there is no reason to fork.

            Most of the chromium forks are just branding and proprietary features they want built in, with brave being the only one that feels a little more aggressive in changes from the base.

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        Well, there are also the mobile variants of Firefox, which are more of their own thing.

        IMO Mozilla limited itself a bit too much on Firefox. Which results it their web engine not attracting many developers for it outside Mozilla.

        Embedding gecko in your own app was much easier in the past. This is now mostly taken over by CEF and WPE for Blink and WebKit respectively.

        Also stuff like B2G (Boot 2 Gecko) or FirefoxOS are dead as well.

        A goal of open source should be to be hacker friendly as well, were currently Blink/WebKit is leading. There are so many more projects around those engines than Gecko, which is sad.

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          Yes, I’m talking about that. I was using conkeror (Gecko-based browser with emacs-like controls, which is funny since for editing I’ve never learned emacs and use vi/vim) until it stopped being practical.

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      It really is telling that even Microsoft don’t find it viable to maintain a browser engine.

      The “standards” are an absolute fucking nonsense, and boil down to “just do what Chrome does because nobody can stop them”.

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        To be fair to Chrome.

        Microsoft had the vast majority with Trident. Mozilla/Firefox slowly gained market share with Gecko. Chrome/Webkit* then took market share from both.

        It’s not like Chrome just appeared one day and demanded everyone use them, they gained market share by being a good browser.

        *(Chrome now uses a fork of Webkit called Blink.)

        That being said I do think Firefox provides the best browser experience, and Chrome users should look into switching.

        Which is a long way of saying Microsoft fucked up bad. Real bad.

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        I feel like I’m going crazy since we kept preaching for years that this is the end goal and that this is what will happen with Google’s anti-competitive practices. Just get shit on in the comment threads until recently.

        It’s not even a feel good I told you so because this just sucks.

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      I just had to install chrome to book plane tickets. Kept getting an error on Firefox.

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        There’s a new feature inside Firefox that allows you to report webpages that are broken on Firefox but work in other browsers. Please use it. It’s a great way to push for universal compatibility within browsers. It’s usually the webpage developer’s fault for using a non-orthodox technique that works exclusively on Chrome, but shouldn’t be done for any sort of reasons, like compliance with web standards. But, it’s possible for Firefox to derive intelligence from the reports and write workarounds.

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          When I was choosing a return site it kept saying, “oops there was a mistake. It was not your fault. Try again later”.

          Their mobile app sucked too, so I installed chrome to see if it would work and it did right away.

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            If websites don’t work on Firefox even if the user agent was changed to Chrome I recommend you to use a privacy preserving browser like ungoogled chromium.

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                Easiest would be to install a plugin such as “User-Agent Switcher.” This is the string of text that identifies what browser, version, and platform you’re running to the server you’re accessing.

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                It’s a string that your browser sends to websites with information about the browser itself and your OS. Sometimes that info will be used to block functionality.

                Years ago I tried to use TurboTax from Firefox on Ubuntu. It wouldn’t work because only Internet Explorer on Windows was supported. I changed the user agent to make it appear as though I was using a supported setup, and it worked flawlessly.

                I haven’t actually needed to use one in a long time, but an extension search for “user agent switcher” should turn up something that can do it.

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              8 months ago

              Thanks! I just downloaded chrome to use for this one off instance. I’m pretty degoogled, but needed to book a flight so I just needed to get it done.

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      8 months ago

      Hi. I’m on lemmy. I haven’t switched. Why? Because there an insane amount of incorporation into Google. Email, my phone communicating to pc, passwords, auto fill, saved cookies, credit cards.

      I want to switch. I want to get off chrome from what I’ve been reading regarding it’s practices. But I’m so engraved and the undertaking of switching is not something I’ve committed to yet. Or might never. I already have a Google Home in my kitchen. I feel like privacy isn’t something I have a privilege of anymore.

      They’ve got me.

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            Honestly for me it has much better synching. It took a little work to move everything over, but far less than I anticipated.

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            My Firefox experience is seamless between my work station, laptop and Android phone. Syncing happens immediately when I open my session on either of them. I don’t use the Google ecosystem much though (I mean Google pay, etc) so transitioning may be harder than I imagine from where I sit

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              Man I don’t really use anything Google except my Gmail when logging into misc accounts

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            Oh man! Download KeePassXC, put your passwords on there, install the browser extension to use it in your browsers. You can back it up any way you want, including using Google Drive because the file is encrypted.

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                Some people don’t want to sign up to a cloud provider or manage their own instance. KeePassXC offers a simple file that can be stored on your devices. It’s easy to sync using your existing cloud accounts and encrypted.

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    There’s like… no downside: all upside.

    Edit: I exaggerated, of course. Below this are some downsides that individuals have experienced. But personally, my experience using Firefox on desktop for Mac has been all upside. If everybody who can just tries it out, you might be surprised at how friction-free the change is.

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      Not strictly true. Firefox gets inferior support from cloud services, like Microsoft. Newer versions of their Web apps are not available on Firefox.

      But there should be no downside. It’s all artificial.

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        The big services purposely degrade their sites when users connect with Firefox. It’s well documented.

        Unfortunately nothing is being done about it so far.

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      One thing I miss in Firefox is tab grouping. Yes there are 3rd party extensions that do that. But Chromium based browsers support that natively.

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            Agreed, and it seems like Firefox has recently made an effort to accommodate the extension more, as it seems to run even better than it used to and is now a recommended extension

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          You haven’t tried Vivaldi then. It has the best tab management features of any browser by leaps and bounds, it saddens me they chose Chromium over Gecko given that manifest v3 is coming.

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          Oh hell yeah… Thank you friend. I immediately downloaded it, and it took me all of 30 seconds to realize this is it

          This is what I’ve been looking for, for years now. I even took a crack at it myself several years ago, but then I realized it wasn’t possible without doing an extension (rather than a plug-in) if I wanted to do it right

          You have mitigated one of most inconvenient recurring problems in my life. I’m working on a lemmy app right now, and I’m so grateful I’m going to move up the “mark user as friend” feature.

          How would you like me to guild your username so I might recognize you in the future? Lit up border? Tiny crown on your avatar? A little lemmy gold symbol next to the score? I’m open to suggestion

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          It gives me anxiety, it’s way too overcrowded and cluttered. I use Tree Style Tab. It does one thing, it does it well, it doesn’t overcomplicate it, it works with me.

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            I will say it took me some time to get used to it, but it also is a lot easier to use than it used to, they made a lot of things better in the last update

            I think it’s one of those things that you have to sit down and test out and really figure out. Tree style tabs are also good though. I definitely think it’s where sideberry got their inspiration

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      No, in my experience especially the Android version of Firefox is less smooth when playing animations or scrolling on older or lower end devices.

      I really hope with the new Focus on Firefox mobile, that they will iron that out.

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      I have to use Chrome for…

      1. Logging into PSN, since something in Firefox hard locks when I try it. I think it’s to do with Firefox’s password manager.

      2. VR porn.

      3. Some videos. Firefox doesn’t support certain video types (namely HEVC/H.265) due to patent issues.

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      I prefer Fennec, Mull is too restrictive. I get the appeal, but I want some of the comforts.

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          My biggest pet peeve is the system color scheme detection. Mull always runs websites in white.

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            Ah. That’s part of Resist Fingerprinting mode, which (after checking about:config) I see Mull enables by default. Desktop Firefox does the same thing in that mode. You could always turn it off if you don’t value that protection.

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    I wish the password autofill feature was more robust for Firefox on Android. Using it as my default password provider but it regularly does not pick up on password fields.

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      Dunno if this helps you at all, but I’ve been using BitWarden to manage my passwords since I made the switch from Chrome to Firefox (both on PC and my Android phone). It doesn’t fill passwords automatically in either case, but it’s not much extra work to invoke BitWarden to fill those fields as-needed on either device, and it works very consistently. It’s also (I’m told) much more secure. Just thought I’d share that here!

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      I’ve had this happen with obscure government sites that look like they were made in the 90s, I manually add the login & password for these

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    TAB GROUPS, FIREFOX, BRING BACK TAB GROUPS.

    And no, extensions aren’t helping, their UX is so much worse.

    That’s just a make or break feature for me.

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      So I tried to find what tab groups are but most of the results are feature request threads so apologies if this isn’t what you want.

      Waterfox will soon be adding some sort of tab grouping feature akin to what tree-style-tab extension does. Here’s the blogpost about it https://www.waterfox.net/blog/waterfox-x-treestyletab/

      Again I’m not sure if that type of grouping is what you’re looking for but if it is consider watching out for the feature release. Longtime waterfox user and haven’t had many complaints, Alex has quickly responded to the two issues I made in the github including a feature request that got added within a week (ability to unload tabs with right click).

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    Anybody else having flaky behavior with youtube videos in Firefox lately? Like, only audio resuming but video freezing after rewinding? I’m wondering if this is intentional on the part of Google.

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    Firefox Multiaccount Containers, the thing that can’t be beat by even the best chrome derivatives

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    The only reason I have chrome even installed is because I am forced to use it for chromecast every once in a while.

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      I use Ungoogled Chromium exclusively for YouTube, cause my graphics card csn upscale videos and convert them to HDR, but not in Firefox. The moment I get those features in Firefox, I’m done with Chrome for good.

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      There’s a video service my therapist uses that refuses to run in Firefox. I expect it probably could, but it’s a lot less work to just launch chrome for that one use case.

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        Install a user agent switcher. There are several for Firefox and you can spoof chrome.

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          Welllll I also have the other use case of my partner refuses to switch, so she wants chrome on the computer too.

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            Use different user accounts. Do you own thing. You can have both installed.

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              I do have both installed, but it’s easier to use chrome for the one use case I have since it’s going to be installed anyway for her

              Edit: oh you mean a user agent switcher too… Well, that seems like work 😛

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                I’m saying that you log in as “jojo” to the computer and another account is called “jojo’s gf”. You can do whatever you want in each and won’t bother the other. Computers are designed for muiltiuser use.

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                  It doesn’t bother either of us to be using the same login on the computer. And it doesn’t really bother her that firefix is installed nor me that chrome is.

                  And since chrome is sitting right there, it’s the easiest way to use my therapist’s video service.

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    10 reasons:

    1. I always used Firefox
    2. I always used Firefox
    3. I always used Firefox
    4. I always used Firefox
    5. I always used Firefox
    6. I always used Firefox
    7. I always used Firefox
    8. I always used Firefox
    9. I always used Firefox
    10. Google can suck my saggy man tits
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    Screen capture being disabled in private mode on firefox is really reassuring to me.