• Sanctus@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        But I mean, the man isn’t 100% on what I want. So obviously we have to abstain, causing the end of democracy in this shit system.

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          8 months ago

          Name a reasonable (see: electable) alternative who is

          1. better on Israel
          2. better for the economy
          3. can beat trump

          Until you can you should probably stfu because if you think it’s better to see Biden lose to trump over Israel, you’re going to be pretty damn disappointed when trump puts boots on the ground to help Israel.

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          I’m tired of seeing this worn out point. What exactly would you propose he do that is:

          1. Actually possible for him to do

          2. Not going to make the situation worse

          3. Not something he is already doing

          Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like what Israel is doing either but the US has painted themselves into a corner long before the Biden admin. We can’t stop supporting Israel without basically ceding control of the region to Iran, and I guarantee Iran will do shit that will make Israel look like Mr. Rogers by comparison.

          I’m not saying there’s nothing he could be doing better, but I don’t see any productive discussion from the people calling him Genocide Joe.

          And all that aside, he’s still by far the preferable alternative to Don Cheeto who would likely actually be a genocide enabler.

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      8 months ago

      I mean… I don’t see eye to eye with the man on certain things either but… Do you think Trump is going to do better when it comes to fossil fuels? He’s going to fight for the environment harder?

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          8 months ago

          Those are our options. He’s saying make sure you know what you’re getting into if you vote for Biden…

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            8 months ago

            I expect to have at least four names on my ballot. you can choose from any of them.

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              8 months ago

              Yes a third party candidate winning would be nice. But do you think this election, when we risk having Trump again, is the year to try to divide the votes like that? When, we both know, they’re zero chance in hell of a third party candidate winning anytime soon?

              Maybe down the road we’ll get there. But right now the only actual choices are Trump and Biden. That’s just the world we live in. I’m not happy with it either, just like I wasn’t happy with having to pick Clinton or Trump.

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                8 months ago

                i didn’t vote for biden in 2012 or 2020. i won’t be doing it this year. if you’re worried about dividing the vote, you should help me decide whether we’re voting for jill stein or cornel west.

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                  I’m sorry but you live in a land of delusion. That’s just not happening this time. We’re not there yet. And you posting slightly snarky comments on a very tiny website like this isn’t what’s going to turn the tide and turn this into a third party country.

                  We only have two options. I’m not happy with it either but that’s where we are.

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                    I know you’re planning on splitting the vote by voting for the conservative instead of a leftist, but I’m not calling you delusional. I’m certainly not lying about how many people are on the ballot.

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        8 months ago

        Isn’t one of his stated campaign promises literally “drill, drill, drill, baby!”