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          Why do you get to define who I am?

          I got circumcised by a rabbi. I had a bar mitzvah. My ancestors were Jewish as far back as I can trace (including the ones killed in the Holocaust because they were Jews.). I am entirely steeped in Jewish culture. I am a Jew. You don’t get to tell me I’m not. That’s not up to you.

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      “Jew” isn’t a nationality dumbass, it’s an ethnicity and a religion (rather, a group of ethnicities and religions that share common cultural aspects). Do you think that Israel just suddenly became the owner of Judaism after Nakba or something, and all the other Jewish ethnicities disappeared?

      That’s like if you said “You’re not not a Dukhobor, you’re a Canadian”

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          Lol what? You come in and randomly call a Jewish person “not a Jew” and then get pissy when people (rightfully) call you stupid?

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              I would assume the guy saying “fuck off” in response to being given the revelation that Judaism isn’t a nationality, yes? I’m bestowing you with great knowledge, yet you reject me so. How unrefined.

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                  It looks like you don’t know what sarcasm is – I was emphasizing how it’s basic knowledge you should already know… I shouldn’t have to tell you that “Jew” and “American” aren’t mutually exclusive in the slightest, and that Israel doesn’t represent Jews (Israel’s population is also not homogenously Jewish, despite non-Jews legally being second-class humans and not having the same rights). There are more Jews in the NY Metro Area than in Tel Aviv… out of the 10 cities populated with the most Jews in the world, there are only 3 Israeli cities.

                  You’re extraordinarily ignorant of the world outside of your little bubble if you think Israel – a land founded mostly by antisemitic Europeans (cough Br*tish), who wanted equally European Jews outside of Europe, leaving those white European Jews to colonize Palestine and genocide the local population for a century – is representative of Jews, or anyone who is not Israeli for that matter. Hell, they don’t even represent a full quarter of their own population. Maybe you should pick up a history book, or a book on demographics… ones not made by Zionists and western imperialists.

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      You’re feeding right into what Netanyahu wants, you realize? He would like to speak for all Jews and tie them all to Israel.

      And he’s completely wrong. American is a nationality. Judaism is a religion and culture. They are not mutually exclusive.

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      “Kyle, all those times I called you a Jew, I didn’t mean it. You’re not a Jew.”