• Impassionata@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I guess what I’m saying overall is Trump might, even if elected to a second term, still turn out to be the American Sulla instead of the American Caesar if you catch my drift.

    This is stupid. You are an idiot. Shut the fuck up.

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      4 months ago

      I’m not quite sure what exactly you are taking offence from in that statement but feel free to enlighten me. In my defence I tried to indicate that it is a rough metaphor.

      P.S. to rephrase, it seems you did not in fact catch my drift.

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        4 months ago

        If Trump is elected to a second term it will be a disaster and there is no ambiguity as to the nature of Trump for he has already declared civil war against the will of the American people. You are an idiot.

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          If Trump is elected to a second term it will be a disaster and there is no ambiguity as to the nature of Trump for he has already declared civil war against the will of the American people.

          And please show me where the fuck I ever doubted that. Do you not know who Sulla was? Did you not read me saying he fought a civil war and was the first general to march on Rome? Like right above the section you quoted out of context?

          What I said is Trump might not turn out to be the one to kill the republic but the one to irreparably damage it instead. Think for example him getting elected to a second term and then dying a month into it without achieving much of his dictatorial agenda.

          You are an idiot.

          That I am, given that I am still arguing with you.

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              4 months ago

              Again, not what I said. To be frank, the amount of misinterpretation you show is starting to seem utterly deliberate.

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                4 months ago

                idk man you said we didn’t know if Trump was going to be like Sulla and give up his power and that’s a stupid fucking thing to say.

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                  4 months ago

                  I said Sulla gave up his dictatorship in response to a rhetorical question I took the liberty of answering.

                  In an effort of tying that aside back to the topic of the thread I then tried to state that it remains to be seen if Trump will be the one to kill the republic (Caesar), or the one setting the precedent to make it possible (Sulla).

                  I have no delusions that Trump would willingly give up power. He has already shown that he will not. But what he hasn’t done (yet) is kill the republic. And as the assassination attempt happening a few days after my post should have made clear, he might yet fail to. What I’m worried about is whoever is going to fill the power vacuum that comes after his departure. This shit won’t stop even if death rids us of him.

                  But fair enough, I can see how that might have been misinterpreted. Hence my disclaimers in said post, and my efforts at explaining following your accusations. Which you have so far only answered with more insults. So I really have to wonder who is the one saying stupid fucking things here.

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                4 months ago

                Sometimes there is a reason for that and often better not to spend the time

                In my experience, it doesn’t take more than like 1-2 clearly aboveboard and good faith messages for even someone who’s pretty disagreeable to get on the same communication page. If it’s like 10 messages of just discoherent hostility then the usefulness of the conversation may be at its end

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                  4 months ago

                  Yeah I’m probably giving more benefit of the doubt than I should here, but I prefer to err on the side of caution in matters like this. I’m still not entirely convinced that this user is a troll, because if I were facing the prospect of an openly fascist dictatorship I would be in emotional distress as well. So I’m still doubting, however I have to say my patience is beginning to wear rather thin.