*please note i deeply value and respect the vegan movement. i am just critical of how humorously it precipitates in online spaces, particularly this one. :)

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    I personally love cheesebreather, bloodmouth, and milk-drinker.

    Bonus points to milk-drinker because that’s not even a term made by vegans to call people coward babies. Play Skyrim and you’ll hear it all over the place!

    Carnist doesn’t count because it’s not technically an insult. It’s just a name for someone that practices carnism. Carnism IS terrible, but the purpose of the word is no different than Christian to Christianity.

    It’s hilarious that carnists get so butthurt about being called what they are though so I enjoy that part.

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      I personally love cheesebreather, bloodmouth, and milk-drinker.

      see i just couldn’t keep a straight face if you tried to say those while making eye contact 😭😭

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        I’m glad accurate discriptors of your lifestyle seem as ridiculous to you as they are!

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      Carnist seems to imply that they eat ONLY meat though. They’re not carnivores, they’re omnivores. It’s on the same level as using the terms pro-abortion and pro-life to describe the two sides of that debate. This kind of name calling of an out group is not too far removed from all the wacky names flat-earthers give to all the rest of us just living here on the globe not being wack-a-doos.

      Using the term butthurt is some straight up 90s era homophobia too. Nice.

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        From my understanding, carnism is closely related to speciesism. Most people wouldn’t eat dogs or cats, but happily eat chickens, cows and pigs.

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          It isn’t. It’s in reference to “having a stick up your ass”, which means being uptight and overly serious. Because they are stiff, as though a firm rod had been run the length of their body.

          People also mistakenly believe that to be a homophobic phrase too. Mind you, there’s a slim distinction here. Telling someone to “shove it up your ass” could be considered homophobic, though I think of it as just rude. I feel like context would matter a lot here.

          The youth today think everything insulting must be a slur of some kind and are obcesse with moral purity.

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            The youth today have nothing to do with it. It’s reactionaries who take a genuine issue (people using actual slurs) and apply it to situations that work in their favour (acting like ‘carnist’ or ‘cishet’ are slurs).

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          I can’t find anything except random tweets saying as much, and a medium article behind a paywall saying it isn’t.

          So… I have no idea either.

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      I think carnist is a useful word that a lot of people get caught up on. As you say it’s not a pejorative, just a word that describes someone who chooses to eat meat as opposed to carnivore which is a creature that can only eat meat. All humans are omnivores, but not all are carnists.