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Water is wet.
Him, along with the entire political class. Thanks, NYT.
No, that’s lazy thinking.
The same New York Times that put up an Op ed from political expert George Clooney yesterday telling Biden to step down. Gotta get the outrage clicks from both sides I guess.
But he should.
Well, except that apparently the replacement the DNC has in mind is Kamala fucking Harris. I knew it’d be too much to expect them to grow any balls.
No shit.
Biden’s mental state is a legitimate criticism but don’t expect the DNC to suddenly be anything other than center-left. Whoever would replace Biden would run with essentially the same platform.
I just hoped (stupid, I know) that SOMEONE would realize that salvaging the platform is the least of their worries.
They need someone who energizes the base. That’s how they won in 2008. That’s how they lost in 2016. And they only won in 2020 because Trump was such a tremendous fuck up and piece of shit. AND STILL ONLY BARELY.
God damn.
Center-left? DNC? On what planet? The DNC is a right-wing liberal party, it’s no flavor of Socialist, or even Social Democrat. Perhaps when the largest alternative is the GOP, filled with fascists and far-right populists, but that doesn’t change the views of the DNC, only their context.
My argument still stands. No one should expect the DNC to replace Biden with someone more left leaning than Biden regardless of how you put the DNC on the political spectrum.
Oh, sure. The DNC will only post right wing liberals, that’s their deal.
As bad as I think Biden’s chances are, I wonder if Kamala’s are not worse.
I think the idea is that she is already VP, so it creates less drama than trying to shoehorn someone else in at the last moment. We already have had to accept her being one seat away from the presidency, making her the candidate is easier for voters to swallow.
She’s no worse politically than Biden, but she isn’t ancient and fumbling the job either, so I would absolutely vote for her if she were the candidate.
If Biden does step down, I don’t see any possibility that the DNC could replace him with anyone else that isn’t going to create extreme disunity amongst Democratic voters.
Harris has been an active and progressive VP. She has been better and more effective than every VP going back to Dan Quayle.
Her only problems are charisma, and right wing propaganda. Same as Hillary.
I wouldn’t call right wing propaganda “her problem”, right wing propaganda is going to exist for literally any liberal that challenges the far-right.
Why are we pretending that Kamala and Hillary were uniquely hated by the right? The entire Republican platform is a platform of hate. We cannot take their prejudices seriously because prejudice is all they will ever offer.
Hillary was uniquely hated though. She was a solid first lady and an OK senator and pretty good secretary of State. And the discourse around her was brain boilingly toxic. Obama was the only Democrat that experienced something similar, maybe Pelosi. Biden, Clinton, and Gore did not get that level of visceral hatred.
This is likely a response to criticism about their editorial saying Biden should step aside. There wasn’t enough “Trump bad” in that one for people so they’re making their position clear.
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That’s been true since the dawn of donnie.
Bold take, NYT.
At this point, NYT finally writing this column is like Ja Rule finally telling us what to think .
We need this from the New York post or one of those sites.
But then I would be forced to doubt that Trump is unfit to rule. It would be painful but necessary for any “information” found on the NY Post.
The point is conservatives get their news from it. They would implode
So much so he has the ability to get people to support Biden. Amazing stuff.
Both candidates are campaigning for the opposite party.
No shit.
BREAKING NEWS!..
That’s just, like, your opinion man. (But fo real mine too)
He wasn’t fit to lead eight years ago either.
Yeah we know
People above the age of 60 shouldn’t be allowed in political positions in general
I’m interested to learn why you feel this way.
In contrast, I believe it takes decades of learning the political and legislative process and establishing the trust of your constituents and colleagues and organizations operating in your state. It’s one thing to be a junior senator or member of the house but, as a senior member of government, a 40 or 50 year may not be as well equipped to be proficient at their responsibilities; especially given the mixed bag of people being elected as representatives lately. That’s not to say I believe it requires someone to be older but I do think there’s a decent argument opposing your perspective. Also, by capping a representatives age, you’re failing to fully represent all Americans.
We still have a system to get older or inefficient people out of office - it’s called an election. Sadly, not many people take our electoral process, or politics, too seriously so we’re more often choosing to stick with the status quo. Now you’ve got to debate if we’re too stupid to be allowed certain freedoms or if we should have the government step in to make choices for us.
I feel the issue is more the disproportionate representation of ages than the age itself. But there should be better mental fitness checks as well.
NO SHIT. jeezus h christ NY Times tell us something we don’t know.
Having continuous pieces like this make a difference. Think of how many “Biden has to step aside!” pieces have been written in the past two weeks and how much a part of the political discussion that is. The more time the media takes up shouting from the rooftops that Trump is a threat to America, the more mainstream and central the discourse becomes.
if they don’t publish this and just report on biden’s gaffes:
“why is the media always talking about biden but not saying anything against the orange guy?”
What is the counterpoint elsewhere on the page? “Donald Trump Must Be Allowed To Destroy Us All?”