Yes, there’s more to it than that and it’s quite stupid and also quite bigoted. Republicans don’t need to know that. They didn’t and won’t read his book anyway.

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      That’s just a little manscaping! He’s just metrosexual!

      Also, he hates drag queens. Don’t you dare suggest anything.

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    So, is he…

    1. Fundamentally misrepresenting homosexually as self delusion and a choice, or

    2. A closet homosexual in denial, like so many other homophobes

    I guess they’re not mutually exclusive.

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      “I closeted myself and am resigned to a loveless marriage in my pursuit of a political career. Why can’t you?”

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      1. A normal human, most of which are varying degrees of bisexual and questioned things like this wen they were growing up and learning about themselves, but sadly ended up a bigoted asshole
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    JD Vance once wrote that he ‘convinced myself that I was gay’ when he was a kid

    And just who is he blaming for that?

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    This explains so much about why he hates the gays and believes in “Traditional Family” (a word which here means, female slavery to a man)

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    When he brought up the issue with his grandmother — known to Vance as “Mamaw” — she replied bluntly: “Don’t be a fucking idiot, how would you know that you’re gay?”

    When Vance explained his reasoning, she laughed.

    “JD, do you want to suck dicks?” she said, according to the book.

    So… 8 year old JD Vance instead wanted to eat pussy?

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      Considering his grandma followed it up with

      “And even if you did want to suck dicks, that would be okay,” she replied. “God would still love you.”

      He clearly didn’t get homophobia from her.

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      Also, if eight year old Vance brought this up with his public school teacher and they gave him the same kind of response (minus the “suck dicks” and “fucking idiot” parts), conservatives would absolutely lose their shit over “grooming”

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      Also, was this his grandmother saying that she knows that SHE’S straight because she wants to suck dick?

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      Considering not all straight women want to suck dicks, I don’t think the desire to suck dick is a good determinant of whether you’re gay or not anyway.

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        Shit, I’m bi, and I don’t really like the idea of giving oral to any gender. The thought of body fluids in my mouth kinda grosses me out, unfortunately. Makes me happy that people love it, though. The world would be a better place if everyone got to experience their ass getting eaten voraciously. It really is an amazing experience.

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        …… it’s almost as if there are subtle nuances to human sexuality that can’t easily be defined by how you enjoy your dick ….

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    I think he’s probably trolling in some way? Or maybe this is exactly what some conservatives want to hear, so that’s why he’s saying it. He seems to have learned exactly what to say to make people like him.

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      This is the same guy who hopes everyone has forgotten that he called Trump “America’s Hitler,” so he could just be extremely stupid.

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        I don’t think he’s stupid. Some people who grow up poor develop a talent for knowing how to ingratiate themselves to others. His changing opinion simply means that the target he wants to charm has changed.

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          I don’t think he’s stupid…

          More to this he graduated undergrad summa cum laude and got his law degree from Yale. I think this dude is actually smart and that concerns me.

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      He probably says this to lend credibility to the idea that homosexuality is something that can be “cured” or “outgrown”

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      It was part of his memoir written at the age of 22. He was trying to sound cool and clever and add color to his grandmother’s character because she asked a 6 year old if he wanted to suck dicks. I wouldn’t think too hard about it.

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    Every straight person I’ve talked to says they knew they were straight very early on. This goes for me as well. There was a brief moment in my teen years where I asked myself if I might be gay. It lasted about two seconds. The result was negative. There was no way I was going to be gay.

    If this dude “convinced” himself he was gay, well, I think he might just be at least bi.

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      A lot of bi people just decide to only live as straight since they would rather not deal with the social stigmas of any degree of homosexuality

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        Yup. I’m bi, but I always knew that I wanted kids and a family so my “choice” was obvious. I also saw my class mates mercilessly bully an openly gay kid, so I simply chose not to go through that myself and never told anyone how I felt.

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      Every straight person I’ve talked to says they knew they were straight very early on.

      Idk, man. There are definitely people I know with a very clear gender identity from an early age. But their were plenty more that weren’t so cemented at one pole or the other of the Kinsey Scale.

      If this dude “convinced” himself he was gay, well, I think he might just be at least bi.

      The problem is fundamentally of definition. Are you simply Bisexual or are you Deluded By Satan Into Having Impure Thoughts?

      The answer is entirely rooted in your morality. If you’re convinced homosexuality is evil, then of course you’re going to feel like any non-straight impulse must be a sin.

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      I thought I was gay when I was like 13 or 14 and then never thought of it again, the thought just went away

      I still have long hair since that time but have a wife of 10 years ha

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      I will never intentionally expose myself to that garbage, so I’ll just ask… What? I’m curious how that fits into this guy’s story.