• supertrucker@lemmy.ml
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    The leftists should just stop pretending, write a Bible, and start worshipping whoever tells them they are special

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      On a scale of 1-10, with 1 being Inconsequential and 10 being Paramount, how important is hierarchy to the healthy functioning of a group?

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    OLDEST candidate, rofl!

    Age doesn’t matter. Mental cognition does.

    Convicted criminal

    Yeah, by the deep state using the rigged courts.

    Worst deficit

    Yeah, maybe. But he freed up the economy by approving a record number of drilling contracts, and basically telling the world “America is open for business.” Had this modus operandi continued, we could have even prospered our way out of the negative consequences of the spending.

    Twice impeached

    Again, by the deep state using the radicals in congress. Crazy people hate you? What an accolade that is.

    Hated by most Americans

    Let’s see, Obama got 69M votes in 2008. Trump got 74M votes in 2020. Saying “most hated” really misses the point here.

    Lost the popular vote

    On paper…

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          I think you missed the joke.

          You’re not just “disagreeing”. You’re trotting out GOP propaganda, much like a bot programmed to do so.

          I’m having a hard time believing that you actually believe what you’re saying.

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            Never underestimate people. Half are below average on any axis you might care about

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          “Ideological” says a person who talks about the deep state as if it’s a bad thing (the department of transport is part of the deep state; the deep state means the apparatus of the state beyond the elected representatives: the government departments, police, etc) you know, the people paid too little to regulate a tiny part of the economy

          Trump wasn’t impeached by the deep state, he was impeached by Congress, that’s the shallowest but of the state

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        World population in 1945 - 2.3 billion

        World population in 2024 - 8.2 billion

        I’m talking numbers, not percentages (although Trump might still have Hitler beat there as well, thanks to the internet).

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          I was born decades after Hitler died and I hate him.

          Wait, just saw the lifetime thing

          Anyways you’d be surprised by the amount of people uncaring of American politics in India and china, or even supporting trump.

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            I’m specifically talking about while the person is still alive because once they’re dead, what you think of them is moot.

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            People all over care about American politics. America keeps the Peoples Republic of China from invading the Republic of China, is helping Ukraine resist Russia, provides a lot of support for its allies

            Different presidents alter American foreign policy

            Last time Trump was ineffective. This time we worry that he may have more effective plans for holding power than last time, and the rest of the world worries about a weaker America

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      He is 100% guaranteed to lose the popular vote by millions. Unfortunately, that doesn’t determine whether he wins the election.

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      Impeachment is not the same as being removed from office. It is the first step to the process however. Impeachment is the bringing of charges against an official in office. Once charges are brought, a trial must be held on the Senate with the Chief Supreme Court Justice presiding. If the trial ends in a conviction, the result is removal from office. However, the Chief Justice for nearly the past 20 years is a staunchly conservative man appointed by the 2nd bush administration in 2005.

      Impeachment was never really a threat to Trump while in office. Just a way for Congress to tell the president that they know the bad shit he’s doing and they don’t like it. As long as the supreme court remains absolutely stacked with conservative appointees, there will never be a removal of office of a favored Republican president.

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    Other than after 9/11 when we were lied to about the war, Republicans haven’t won the popular vote in my lifetime.

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    Political and depressing comment ahead, skip if you are just here for the laughs

    Tap for spoiler

    And if you let him he will be the person who have killed more Americans with his civil war.

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        “Cult like” would be thinking Americans are going to elect a Black woman as their next president.

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          I’m not sure if I understand the points you are trying to make. Could you please elaborate? A) this meme is about records broken, not “wins.” A president winning a second term would not break any records. B) why wouldn’t Americans vote for a black woman? C) why would the thought of Americans electing a black women be “cult like?”

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            this meme is about records broken, not “wins.”

            Read the title.

            why wouldn’t Americans vote for a black woman?

            I said Americans will not elect a Black woman as president, not that they will not vote for a Black woman as president. Many Americans will vote for Harris but it’s not going to be enough to win the election. The US is conservative country with a predominately White national identity where non-Black minorities like latinos are moving further to the right and increasingly see themselves as part of the White national construct. Harris was very unpopular as vice president and is polling well behind Trump in every key state. She has just over 100 days to turn all of this around.

            why would the thought of Americans electing a black women be “cult like?”

            The American left suffers from Trump-induced cognitive dissonance. It is so fixated on defeating Trump that it cannot acknowledge that there is a reality in which Trump can and will win. This steadfast denial of reality resembles the behaviour one would find in a cult.

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              Thank you for the detailed response!

              I see now that you were responding to the title and not the content of the post.

              To further round out my knowledge and understanding, could you please point me to additional information about Latinos moving further to the right, Harris’ popularity, and polling data showing her well behind Trump in key states?

              I’m also curious to see examples of the American left refusing to acknowledge the potential of a second Trump term.

              Thanks again for helping me understand.

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                It is true that the polling of Harris, both as vice president and versus Trump, is likely to be at least somewhat influenced by the unpopularity of Biden. It’s possible that her popularity could rise now as a presidential candidate facing Trump. However, as I noted she only has around 100 days to change an unfavourable perception of her that has existed for years at this point. I doubt that is enough time for a significant shift in her public image, particularly since she is still the current vice president and continues to be directly associated with Biden’s presidency.

                I’m also curious to see examples of the American left refusing to acknowledge the potential of a second Trump term.

                I can’t really answer this in the same way I have answered your other questions. It’s my personal opinion, based on the narratives and discourse I see in the American media and among left-leaning Americans on social media. After the shock of the 2016 election, people seem to be retreating further into their left-leaning bubbles and refusing to accept that this can and likely will happen a second time, rather than engaging with the other side and trying to make sense of the country they live in. The 2024 campaign has been an absolute disaster for the left so far, yet now that Biden has removed himself from the race there seems to be another wave of delusional celebration from people who think Harris will beat Trump by virtue of being younger and not Biden.

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    I just don’t get this. Does the fact that Biden pulled off 4 months before election mean he was never a candidate? 🤔 With that logic, if Trump quits now he is again forgiven as the oldest one? So, whole this news would be bullshit?

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      Does the fact that Biden pulled off 4 months before election mean he was never a candidate?

      Correct. If I won Beauty Queen last year and stated my intention to run again this year, but then withdrew before I officially entered, you can’t say I won. You also can’t say I lost, I never actually entered.

      The difference is the RNC already had their convention. Trump is their official Nominee, no matter what else happens…

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      Nope, Trump is his parties verified candidate which happens at the convention. Dems have not had their convention yet so Biden was not officially the candidate. Semantics, yes but technically true.

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        Plus I can’t recall if I’ve ever seen one of these parties entertain competition against an incumbent (or former president). In such cases, the party nomination is kinda/sorta a formality. This is why we have heard of zero alternative candidates from either the RNC or DNC.

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          Former presidents don’t normally run because they learn their lesson the first time they lose.

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        The tone-deafness of this reply is pretty ridiculous considering how badly he fucked up. He disbanded the team who was supposed to respond to this disaster, denied it was a big deal, told people not to vaccinate when he got the shot, and politicized a public health issue unnecessarily.

        It is estimated hundred of thousands of less deaths would have happened if Trump had just done his job and not spent his time grandstanding and demonizing public health officials. To put that in perspective, that is more US deaths than every single conflict since WWII combined.

        So yeah, when you are purposely killing hundreds of thousands of Americans while hand waving it away like it is no big deal you get to own that. The reason unemployment was so bad was because of Trump not COVID.

        To top it off, the Biden administration turned it all around and showed us how much of a dysfunctional shit show the previous administration was. To this day places that drank the Trump Kool aid still have higher deaths rates.