Exactly. I’m not always the biggest fan of conventional political wisdom, but in this case I think it’s fair to say that getting most of America to vote for a black woman will already be a pretty big deal, and move the needle forward significantly.
And Kamala doesn’t need AOC to appeal to younger and more left wing voters. She’s already pretty far left of her party on most issues, and has the record to prove it.
Just like Obama needed Biden. Harris also needs a white guy to appeal to (sub)conscious biases. DNC will probably push her towards a moderate so unlikely to be someone like AOC. We’ll see.
Yeah. It saddened and annoyed me seeing that article “can Harris rebuild Obama’s coalition?”- like. Uhm. No? What’s past is gone and can never truly rebuilt. Yes, the ship of Theseus is a new ship. And this is the Ship of Harris, anyway.
If you went back in time 100 years ago and told them who was president in 2008 and reelected again in 2012, they would put you in an insane asylum.
I think people really don’t care about race or gender in POTUS as much as the media puts out, people really just want to not go bankrupt from medical debt, or not have to pay $500,000 for their childrens college and other “bread and butter” personal issues.
99% of the US is progressive, they just don’t know it yet. Everyone benefits from improved policy, that message just needs to be communicated better in a way that even the most stubborn conservative will understand. Bernie Sanders was proof of that because he was capturing the working class and it terrified the 0.01%
They’re going to pick someone who is popular in a purple state, and is going to help calm people who want to see someone more mainstream. I’d love a progressive, but it’s going to be a straight white male from a purple state. I’ll be super surprised if it’s anything else. And I get it: the #1 objective here is to win, and every decision has to be predicated on that.
And besides, AOC is really young and will have lots of opportunities.
Why not AOC? Really need some young blood and someone who is progressive. She also meets constitutional age requirements now.
I like AOC. But two women of color, one who is super progressive, sounds like a massive risk.
I’d love AoC for pres, and consolation prize of VP. (Don’t tell the corpo dems this but the VP job is usually a political dead end…)
The reality is you need to pick VPs defensively. Some one who makes a good presidential candidate generally doesn’t make a good VP candidate.
As much as I like AoC… I don’t mind Kelly.
It used to be the setup job, you did VP before president.
AOC is the future, as long as Dementia Don the racist rapist with 34 felonies that can’t complete a coherent sentence doesn’t get in this time.
Because they know AOC + Harris will be way too scary for the “pathetically insecure white dudes” demographic.
Which sadly means swing states. And is where the election is truly won. AOC isn’t going to help and potentially hurts.
Exactly. I’m not always the biggest fan of conventional political wisdom, but in this case I think it’s fair to say that getting most of America to vote for a black woman will already be a pretty big deal, and move the needle forward significantly.
And Kamala doesn’t need AOC to appeal to younger and more left wing voters. She’s already pretty far left of her party on most issues, and has the record to prove it.
Just like Obama needed Biden. Harris also needs a white guy to appeal to (sub)conscious biases. DNC will probably push her towards a moderate so unlikely to be someone like AOC. We’ll see.
I don’t think the country as a whole has made that much progress yet. She’ll probably have to choose a white guy unfortunately
Yeah. It saddened and annoyed me seeing that article “can Harris rebuild Obama’s coalition?”- like. Uhm. No? What’s past is gone and can never truly rebuilt. Yes, the ship of Theseus is a new ship. And this is the Ship of Harris, anyway.
We’ve made more than people think.
If you went back in time 100 years ago and told them who was president in 2008 and reelected again in 2012, they would put you in an insane asylum.
I think people really don’t care about race or gender in POTUS as much as the media puts out, people really just want to not go bankrupt from medical debt, or not have to pay $500,000 for their childrens college and other “bread and butter” personal issues.
99% of the US is progressive, they just don’t know it yet. Everyone benefits from improved policy, that message just needs to be communicated better in a way that even the most stubborn conservative will understand. Bernie Sanders was proof of that because he was capturing the working class and it terrified the 0.01%
Because she was mind-numbingly insisting Biden was fine so we can’t trust her judgement.
There were a lot more rich people that had Biden’s back until they didn’t. It wasn’t like she was the only one.
They’re going to pick someone who is popular in a purple state, and is going to help calm people who want to see someone more mainstream. I’d love a progressive, but it’s going to be a straight white male from a purple state. I’ll be super surprised if it’s anything else. And I get it: the #1 objective here is to win, and every decision has to be predicated on that.
And besides, AOC is really young and will have lots of opportunities.