Former President Donald Trump urged members of a crowd in Florida to vote and said that if he wins, they “won’t have to vote anymore.”

Speaking at a Turning Point Action event in West Palm Beach on Friday, Trump, who tried to overturn the 2020 election he lost, delivered a cryptic message.

“And again, Christians, get out and vote!” he said to a cheering audience. “Just this time. You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years. You know what? It’ll be fixed! It’ll be fine! You won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. I love you, Christians! I’m a Christian. I love you. Get out. You gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again.”

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    I’m not american, but I have a feeling this election is going to go into history.

    Vote for Trump and he’ll turn it into dictatorship.

    Vote for Harris and she’ll be the first woman president.

    What will it be?

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      Not just the first woman president, but the first female mixed race president and the first to snap back when attacked in a long time. Trump is scared. He just went from saying “you don’t need to vote because we have plenty of votes” to “please vote so we can put an to end voting”

      Edited to say first female mixed race since Obama was first mixed race

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      I hope if Harris gets into office she will be more than just a token granted by the DNC to appease minority voters. We already saw Obama being a mediocre at best internally, and internationally brutal war criminal, president. Him being black did not make him a good president. And for Hillary Clinton the “she’s a women” trope failed catastrophically and brought us Trump in the first place.

      Harris needs to convince with policy and character, not with race or gender.

      EDIT: I did not mean that Harris would only convince with ther background. It is important to move past the tokenism approach that the DNC used to take.

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    “I love you, christians. I am a christian!”

    Who the fuck talks like that? And who the fuck votes for a guy that talks like that?

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      Who talks like that? A grifter. A guy who literally embodies all of the seven deadly sins, trying to convince his followers that “he’s a Christian.” That is just exploding with irony.

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        When you’ve already lost the capacity for critical thought…

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      Imagine how stupid the average person is, then realize half of all people are stupider than that.

      • George Carlin
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            Aw thanks! I didn’t even realize it was so until you said that. Curious – how did you know? I’m using boost right now and it’s not made obvious anywhere I’ve checked.

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              There is a picture of little cake on the right side of your nick. Maybe Boost don’t like cakes?

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        Median would be the more generally correct number to use, but apparently IQ (debatable as a proxy for intelligence…) is roughly normally distributed, so either is likely close enough.

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          The word average is used to signify mean, median or mode freely, depending only on context. For example, “he’s just an average Joe” is to say he’s like most other men in his demographic. In that case average means mode. In Carlin’s joke, average means median.

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          Oh yeah, they normalize IQ every year, and 100 is always used as the median.

          But thanks to the Flynn Effect, getting a 100 (the number they always choose for the middle) in 2024 means you’re significantly smarter than someone who got a 100 in 1990.

          So when Carlin said, “think of a person with average intelligence” he was calling to mind (to his 1990 audience) a person who was average in 1990 but would score [EDIT: I originally said 70s to 80s, but I was off by a lot. Such a person would actually score right around 90 points] today.

          This is what happens when you take the lead out of gasoline.

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            A person would only drop a couple points over time. 80s, and especially 70s, would be significantly impaired.

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        I read something that put conservatives into greater context, just changed one word.

        “Imagine how stupid the average Republican is, then realize half of all republicans are stupider than that.”

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      Millions of stupid Americans. They are everywhere! Even in your city, maybe even in your neighborhood.

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    Doesn’t seem particularly “cryptic” to me. Essentially he’s saying “If we win, you don’t need to vote, because I’ll make sure we win from now on by rigging it”.

    Seems pretty cut and dry to me what he’s saying.

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      I dunno, I hate Trump as much as the next guy but it seems to me he meant “I’m going to fix all the country’s problems in one term so you won’t need to vote for me again”, not “I’m going to abolish voting”.

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        I think it’s more that he doesn’t give a shit what happens because he can only be elected for one more term. Trump doesn’t give a shit about anyone except himself, on other words. And even he’s smart enough to know he’s lucky if he’s got four more years of health left in him. Cholesterol is the only thing holding him together.

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          I think it’s more that he doesn’t give a shit what happens because he can only be elected for one more term

          That’s what I was initially thinking. Maybe he doesn’t give a shit what happens in 4 years because he won’t be running and he doesn’t give a shit what happens after that. He doesn’t care about people voting Republican in 4 years because he’ll be gone.

          But, then I tried to imagine him peacefully handing power over just because the constitution limits how many terms he could serve… and I just couldn’t picture that.

          I mean sure, if he’s elected he’ll definitely do everything possible to destroy any legal cases against him. He’ll also try to have anybody who pissed him off sent to Guantanamo or something. But, will he really want to just retire after that? Even if he feels safe because any potential enemy has been put away, can you really picture him giving up the spotlight and power that comes with the presidency? I can’t.

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        You won’t ever need to vote again was the meaning. If you can’t see that as a red flag, then you deserve the r word in my opinion. The dude doesn’t want a democracy. He wants to be a dictator to avoid his legal issues. This guy will absolutely take down democracy without a second thought. He’ll drag America down with him.

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    Trump using the language of a tyrant is not an accident. When people say that democracy is on the line this election, we’re not being hyperbolic, we’re saying that because of statements like this. Please get out there and vote this November.

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      When people say that democracy is on the line this election, we’re not being hyperbolic

      The election system in the US has been under siege since the end of Jim Crow. The conservative response to the civil rights act has been to egalitarianize disenfranchisement.

      We’ve had Republicans chipping away at the functional organs of democracy since Eisenhower’s Red Scare leveraged the Hoover FBI to infiltrate and eradicate self-sufficient communities and their unionized labor leadership back in the 50s.

      Meanwhile, the Democrats’ leadership have never sat particularly well with the influx of minority voters following the Civil Rights Act. They’ve had to digest racist backlashes within their own party from the George Wallace Dixiecrat break away campaign under LBJ to the Hilary Clinton “birther” attacks launched at Obama during the '08 primary.

      The end result is Republicans openly embracing fascism at the state and local level, while Democrats dissolve their own primary system in pursuit of a rigid corporate sponsored nomination process.

      This isn’t something that’s going to be fixed in an election cycle. Trump losing won’t make Republicans less fascist. Kamala taking the nomination of the discarded carcass of an establishment insider like Biden won’t heal the divide in the Democratic Party. And it certainly won’t undo the fascist GOP takeovers in Texas, Florida, and Ohio.

      We’re in for a rocky road ahead under either Presidency.

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      Him saying it out loud is an accident. People with dementia often forget that they’re not supposed to say certain things out loud.

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        While that may be true, I also think it’s because he feels comfortable enough to say it out loud. These people and a fanatic third of the US are that far gone.

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          At this point we have found out that he can say or do anything and half the country will still support him. There is no convincing anymore for most of them.

          We outnumber them we just need to get higher turnout and we win every time

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        Idk, the crowd was cheering for him. Think he just doesn’t have a grasp on what the average person thinks.

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      If our democracy is so fragile that it can be destroyed by voting for the wrong person, then we have to fix some shit.

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        It’s not just one person. There are years of hijacking that the republican party has done to the us system, like packing the supreme court. Those must be fixed as soon as possible.

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    So he wants to be a permanent dictator? Sounds legit considering the SCOTUS verdict about no criminal reponsibility

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    This thing with Christians reminds me on Steve’s ‘Developers, developers, developers’. Did Steve write speech for Donald 🤔 IT folks will understand 😁

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    Wow. Best case, he’s admitting he won’t run for a third term and doesn’t care once his personal issues are solved. The worst case is openly delaying himself a traitor.

    Time for another meme ad…

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    What the fuck is supposed to be cryptic about this? He’s making it perfectly clear that he wants to overthrow democracy in the US. And everybody who votes for him is OK with that.

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      People asked the question before. It went something like:

      “You do realize that he’ll be a dictator, right?”

      " We don’t care. He’ll be our dictator and that’s all that matters."

      And then they’ll say they do it for freedom and democracy.

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        Those fuckers should be deported to some authoritarian shithole with Sharia law like Iran so they can appreciate what they’re throwing away because they’re terrified of “the gays”.

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          Same with the “migrants out” thing. If immigrants actually left, farmers and business would be desperate within days because all their hardest and/or cheapest workers just vanished and now there are no more truck drivers, no more field workers so crops left rotting on the field, no more waiters, … Prices of stuff would shoot up. UK tried this recently and that’s what happened.

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        “We want our dictator for… what are the good words again?”

        “You mean freedom and democracy?”

        “Yeah, whatever, for those!”

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        There’s another angle to the dictator thing-

        A lot of people essentially think the president already is a dictator. That’s why even people on the left say things like, “why doesn’t Biden raise the minimum wage?!” when that requires an act of congress.

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            Where did you get any indication from what I said that I thought it was okay? I’m talking about why people aren’t more concerned about it like they should be.

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              So many people are so het up, they come sprinting in, gagging to fight someone.

              They need to just deep breathe twice and think a little, please.

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                Trump’s always been banking on everybody giving him the benefit of the doubt, and they do, but he thinks it’s because he’s so very clever that he’s tricking his opponents with his thinly veiled veneer of plausible deniability. In actuality they just do it because he’s rich.

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                  To be fair, if they are doing it because he is rich, then he is indeed tricking them. Even with all the reasons why he should be rich; owning a bunch of buildings, rarely paying anyone that does anything for him, being born rich… he actually still isn’t. He’s so bad with money that despite all that, he’s overall in the hole most of the time. Which is why he so vehemently defends any financial info coming out about him. It’s a point of pride to him that people think he is rich.

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          My favorite is “Why did Biden make shit so expensive!?” And all I can do is laugh, because my brain plays on a loop Biden sneaking around to all the stores swaping price tags and chuckling maniacally.

          And then I get sad because these were people I once respected as “intelligent”…

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            Considering how little help the English songs have been, I doubt that they were paying attention to I’m Just a Bill either.

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                It’s really not hard. The GOP wants as close to laissez-faire capitalism as they can get. This is not a popular position. To enact it anyway they need to go through deeply convoluted steps to retain support despite their primary demographic of religious voters being in steady decline. This pushes all the more sane types into the dem coalition, where we have to deal with progressive vs more modern neo-lib battles over the course of the nation, exacerbated by progressives in the base often refusing to recognize the moderates have a slim majority in overall population.

                I’m not so good at the music side, so someone else can handle that part.

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          I think it’s less “they think the position is already a dictator” and more “the general public has absolutely no idea how the office of the president works, or how the powers and limitations on various branches work in general” which is a failing of their education, and a poor reflection on the country as a whole.

          Of course that’s exactly the way the republicunts like it, “keep the population dumb and they won’t even question why you’re oppressing them”

          If your only experience with the president and their powers comes from (for millennial anyway) various crises (manufactured and non) where the president says “I’m signing this thing to do this” and because the vast majority of congress is behind them, as well as the regular) rest of the population, and it gets done (I’m thinking of things like Iraq), I can see someone thinking “well the president signed a paper, so it MUST happen”

          Which is sad funny since I hear the minimum wage comment a lot, but like… How well do you think that will go? It will go just like the student loan bullshit.

          And republicunts are such fucking insecure losers, they will happily drag the entire planet down into their bullshit to prevent even one single other person from getting help that they believe they’re entitled to the entirety of.

          You know. Like Toddlers.

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        Or the more common answer:

        “He misspoke and the media is taking out of context.”

        Even though he has said it thirty different ways and this just happens to line up with the narrative.

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          Both groups exist and both ignore that the other exists. Just like every “anti-woke” comment is made. Half of them say it’s about some made up nuanced take, while the other half say “no it’s really just racism/sexism/homophobia”. Which pretty much sums up what Hillary said back in 2016.

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      Also anyone who doesn’t go vote because of edgelord reasons or laziness is guilty. If the US becomes Russia v2.0, we’ll all die in WW3 guaranteed.

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      Many don’t think he can pull it off, which is the scary part that might let him do it.

      “Oh, that’s all talk. He can say what he wants but can’t do shit without the House and Congress, and if he wanted to change things to get more terms? With states majority agreement that’s required? Not in his lifetime. You worry for nothing, PassingThrough, it’s all showmanship, as it always has been. And no, the Army wouldn’t help such an obvious fool overthrow the government either.”

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      I’m guessing it’s cryptic because he can just say that he meant “for me” and not “in general.”

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      Trump said it in a way that he could have meant that you won’t have to vote for him again. He kept saying “vote for me now and in 4 years you won’t have to vote again”. I’m sure if you made this criticism to Trump’s face he would act like you’re being unreasonable and pretend that of course he meant that he can only do 1 more 4 year term. Trump’s supporters would respond similarly. But that’s why it’s called a dog whistle, the message gets to the people he wants it to while it forces his detractors to debate what’s going on inside Trump’s head.

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    Cryptically? This motherfucker is the most transparent asshole on the planet. He couldn’t convince a bucket of fish they were out of the water.

    He plain and clearly said “if I win it will be the end of democracy”. There isn’t subtext.

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    “btw I’m not a threat to democracy, you’re a threat to democracy”