The US secretary of state insists Venezuelans' votes in the recent presidential election "must count".

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His intervention comes as the presidents of Brazil, Mexico and Colombia all called on Venezuela to release the full details of last Sunday’s election.

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It has also attracted global criticism, with many governments around the world demanding the Venezuelan government release proof of the result.

The result has been recognised by Venezuelan allies China, Russia and Iran.

But, the US, European Union and other G7 countries have called on Mr Maduro’s government to release detailed voting data.

  • b161@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    2353·
    4 months ago

    Maybe America should stop genociding Palestinians before trying to act like some kind of moral authority on other countries.

    • Maggoty@lemmy.worldEnglish
      216·
      4 months ago

      You really just went straight for the whataboutism? The US and Venezuela can both do bad things.

          • TokenBoomer@lemmy.worldEnglish
            69·
            4 months ago

            Why does the U.S. need to hold Maduro accountable at all? Venezuela is a sovereign country. People got upset when Russia meddled in America’s election. How is it okay for the U.S. to meddle in Venezuela’s? Sanctions. Funding opposition parties. Take it to the UN 🇺🇳 and respect their decision. The world is growing tired of America policing their internal politics and their choice of diplomatic allies.

            • Maggoty@lemmy.worldEnglish
              92·
              4 months ago

              Because Maduro is screwing with our allies in South America. But also because supporting actual free and fair elections is the right thing to do.

              And you’re so hyped up on this America whataboutism you’ve missed that the majority of South America is also calling bullshit.

              Is Panama interfering? Colombia? Peru? Qatar? The UN? They’ve all been critical of this election too. Or is it just when the US is critical?

              • TokenBoomer@lemmy.worldEnglish
                59·
                4 months ago

                Was the election fair or unfair?

                I don’t know. And anyone claiming they do is not objective.

                But we do know that the U.S. has a history of interfering in elections in South America, especially in Venezuela in 2002 and 2019. Knowing this, it is reasonable to believe that this election was manipulated for American interests. Until more information is revealed, it’s just a case of “he said, she said.”

                • Maggoty@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  92·
                  4 months ago

                  Dude, the opposition party already emailed everyone the literal receipts.

                  And no it’s not reasonable to just assume the US did some mumbo jumbo without evidence.

                  • TokenBoomer@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    46·
                    4 months ago

                    The AP could not independently verify the authenticity of the 24,532 tally sheets provided by the opposition.

                    Believe what you want, but I’ll wait for more information before making conclusions.

      • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
        171·
        4 months ago

        Prominent journalist and Russia expert Peter Pomerantsev believes Russia’s efforts are aimed at confusing the audience, rather than convincing it. He states that they cannot censor information but can "trash it”

        The effect created by such Internet trolls is not very big, but they manage to make certain forums meaningless because people stop commenting on the articles when these trolls sit there and constantly create an aggressive, hostile atmosphere toward those whom they don’t like. The trolls react to certain news with torrents of mud and abuse. This makes it meaningless for a reasonable person to comment on anything there.

        Fuckin spot on

        I would replace “torrent of mud and abuse” with “torrent of mud and hostile opinions presented in the most argumentative possible way”, but yes pretty much

        Look around this comment section, and then come back and reflect on that “meaningless for a reasonable person to comment on anything”