On July 25, after a couple of months of debate, the Wikipedia entry “Allegations of genocide in the 2023 Israeli attack on Gaza” was changed to “Gaza genocide.” This was done despite the fact that the International Court of Justice in the Hague has not made an official ruling on the matter, in the wake of South Africa’s petition to the court alleging that Israel is committing or facilitating genocide in Gaza.

The Los Angeles-based Jewish Journal, which followed the Wikipedia discussion and vote, wrote that the editors who voted on this change claimed to be relying on an academic consensus based on statements of experts on genocide, human rights, human rights law and Holocaust historians.

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    3 months ago

    In the interim, Wikipedia and all of us need to decide what to call it.

    i mean, we could also just not have started referring to it as a genocide, but uh, we jumped the gun there a little bit.

    It’s always interesting to me how people will latch on to certain words so aggressively and refuse to cede even minor ground if it requires changing wording.

    i mean even referring to it as “likely genocide” would make it like 10x more palatable.

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        3 months ago

        curious, i’m not jewish, how could i be a zionist?

        ethno-nationalist maybe, but i’m not one of those either, i’m generally opposed to ethnostates.

        also, am i gross? Or did i just say something gross? Weird implication there.

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          Their comment was removed for civility, but to answer your question, many American evangelicals are Zionist because they feel the Holy land has to be in Jewish hands for Jesus to come back.

          It’s not a rational belief, but then, religion is rarely rational.

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            yeah, that’s a possibility. I know israel exists under the concept that in order for jews to be safe it has to be it’s own ethnostate with the ability to protect itself militarily, which is definitely one of the answers after the events of the holocaust. Or so i’ve heard.

            appreciate the answer though.

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          curious, i’m not jewish, how could i be a zionist?

          Oh wow it’s super fucking rare for someone to just admit that they’ve got no idea what they’re talking about like that.

          If you legitimately think being Jewish is a requirement to be a zionist then you’re so I’ll informed on the topic at hand that it’s actually pathetic.

          also, am i gross?

          Yes. Your views are gross, so I find you gross.

          There’s no implication at all, I directly stated what you are. Work on your understanding of the language, it’s shit.

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            Oh wow it’s super fucking rare for someone to just admit that they’ve got no idea what they’re talking about like that.

            well considering that zionism is a concept relating specifically to judaism, it seems fair to me to assume that it would be mostly jewish people that primarily care about it.

            My family is historically christian, but i’m not a pastor or anything so any deeper lore is lost on me.

            If you legitimately think being Jewish is a requirement to be a zionist then you’re so I’ll informed on the topic at hand that it’s actually pathetic.

            i don’t think it’s a requirement, probably just a heavy predisposition. As a non religious individual myself i have no reason to care for zionism one way or the other. I also don’t think i mentioned anything specifically about zionism in my original post, so im not even sure why i’m being called a zionist.

            Yes. Your views are gross, so I find you gross.

            all of them? Or just these ones specifically.