• joenforcer@midwest.social
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    3 months ago

    When you say something like “I don’t see color” or “I don’t see race”, you’re actively dismissing an immutable part of a person’s identity, which is insulting. You can acknowledge and appreciate someone’s race without treating them differently because of it.

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      3 months ago

      No that’s ridiculous. Not seeing something is in No Way actively doing anything. It is by definition passive.

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        No it’s not, it’s actively dismissing someone’s race. The passive thing is to say nothing about it.

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          So I’m neuro divergent and I don’t see people in terms of race. I guess I’m racist now. Who knew. You freaking people are why the right thinks we’re insane. Blind people are racist too?

          Here is me actively dismissing. I see your skin color and I make a conscious decision to omit that fact.

          You are saying if someone doesn’t actually notice the color of people when we see them we are racist. That’s exactly like saying people who are deaf are rude for ignoring you when you speak. Ridiculous.

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            We’re not expecting you to see people in terms of race. That would be profiling. You’re being far too literal and not making a point in good faith by trying to equate visual impairment in this context.

            Please look up the difference between equality and equity, and why equality isn’t sufficient and can in fact still be exclusionary in today’s reality. That’s the point we’re trying to make here.

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              Forgive me for thinking words mean what they say. This is part of the problem the left has in general. You guys are too lazy to have long discussions so you keep making up labels and words that no one knows what they mean then you go around calling people who aren’t even fighting you racist. The entire tone of this thread has been beyond stupid. Don’t get me started on how many letters have been added to LGBTQBBQWTF when the Q was supposed to be the end of it as a catch-all. It’s like you guys WANT to be misunderstood.

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        The colour blindness of children is what you’re thinking of. They’re the only ones untainted by the racism they will inevitably be exposed to later in life.

        You’d have to be incredibly innocent, ignorant, or obtuse, if you got to adulthood without being aware that a person’s visible race will affect how others (like racists) will treat them.

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          It’s easy to be aware of a fact in a moment and lose sight of it in practice it a complex scenario. As I said, I’m neuro divergent, and my closest friends who know me well would liken the naive or innocent way I view things to be similar to childlike naivete. Maybe their not the only ones as untainted as you think. I’ve grown up experiencing very little racism while being brown skinned, so I just don’t think about it in my day to day view.

          If there’s two different forms of racial colorblindness, and it’s ok for kids to be one and adults can’t be the other one, I don’t know it just sounds like dumb nonsense labels purposefully designed to start arguments. Almost sounds like troll language.