Also I want to hear from you, is it ethical and why?
It’s unethical because you can’t safely perform muscle biopsies at home, thus it is a violation of the duty of care, and culturing stratified squamous epithelium and calling it meat(and steak no less) is lying without any benefit to others, which is a fundamental ethical violation.
Cells were collected from a cheeck swab. And it’s not a real product, it’s an art project.
Yeah I know. Cheek cells are stratified squamous epithelium.
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But couldn’t you just grow one steak and then take cells from it to grow more?
I think you would get the copy of a copy problem. DNA in cells degrade overtime. I think with lab grown meat this is much worse than normal human aging.
Good point, I don’t know much about this sort of thing.
My hunch is that, as proposed, this is the most ethical form of meat consumption because the meat is being taken and consumed with consent from the donor. (Yourself) And there’s no living creature that even suffers from the process
“No living creature suffers”? You’re wrong! Cells live, and they’ll suffer death by consumption!
/j :P
Clearly you haven’t been to Milliways, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe.
I was once but that was a long while ago. I don’t remember much of that book lol
Fuck, I’ve always wanted to eat human meat anyway. I’d kill for a sample like this. I don’t care about morals here. I’m a vegetarian. I just want to know. If my buddy was like “ayy we’re eating Dan from accounting’s arm tonight” I’d be there with no questions asked. The police can sort it out.
I’d kill for a sample like this.
oh boy do I have something to tell you
I don’t want to eat human meat, but I don’t mind if you kill that asshole from accounting.
Fun fact : Human meat is an excellent source of protein 🤓
You can eat placenta, if you really want to eat human.
Thats what im thinking- i rarely eat meat but how could i pass up ethical long pig? Im too curious
I mean, if you’d kill for that you don’t need the kit.
Art project from 2020 - intended to provoke the conversations here for sure. Still involves some animal products in production it looks like.
I don’t think this could be feasibly upscaled to sustain a dystopia.
I would be worried about disease first, but if it’s your own cells maybe there’s less chance? Prions are terrifying
My second question would be taste
If there’s no disease and it tastes good then fuck yeah all in
Those cannibals who got prions ate human brain.
Theoretically, if you don’t consume any of spine or nervous system, you should be good.
I can’t grow me a spine steak?
What even is the point then
Unless you already have prions from CJD you can’t catch Kuru by eating yourself. You have to actually eat someone who already has prions to catch it. Even then you have to eat nervous system tissue to be at a significant risk.
without causing harm to animals
- Humans are animals
- Growing me-steak and eating it causes psychic damage
- Therefore, an animal was harmed
If we cultured cells from someone with an autocannibalism fetish, would it then be OK?
Like I take 1d4 psychic damage whenever I see furries at cons, but I don’t think they should have to be banned
I don’t think you can generalize that. I’d love to have little me-steaks and I’d even share them with friends, especially if they can be a Möbius strip.
As long as the human chooses to grow their me-steaks themselves I see no issue.
Just don’t get psychic damage, skill issue ngl
fetal bovine serum (FBS)… is derived from the blood of calf fetuses after their pregnant mothers are slaughtered by the meat or dairy industry.
I did not know this… and after reading the wiki, I found it rather disturbing…
The first stage of the production process for FBS is the harvesting of blood from the bovine fetus after the fetus is removed from the slaughtered cow. The fetus dies from the lack of oxygen by remaining in the protective environment of the uterus for a minimum of 15–20 minutes after the cow is dead…
Me in the lab needing to use FBS for routine cell culture media…
So what do you think when you work with HeLas?
I have read “The Immortal Life Of Henrietta Lacks” and absolutely find it appalling that her cells were taken without her consent, and she and her family was never properly compensated.
I’ve only worked with HeLa cells once, and they were super hardy and easy to grow. Even if you forget to check on them for a week, they’ll start growing on top of each other when the monolayer becomes fully confluent. Easy to transfect as well.
That sounds like some Dark Souls/Evangelion shit. “Harvest the blood of the fetus after pulling it from its dead mother”
The whole point of this art project is to suggest that using expired human blood serum is acceptable for growing lab meat btw. That’s what they used to culture the cheek cells. Took them several months to grow that amount though and cheek cells have very different requirements to muscle cells, so I dunno why they were presenting it as an option. Guess that’s why it was an art project and not a presentation at a conference.
I’ve always wanted Antiviral to be real!
Is this technically cannibalism?
This is by definition cannibalism
Full self cannibalism. Like consuming ones own various fluids
No, ethically more like chopping off a leg for dinner than eating boogers.
*growing a leg from boogers
It’s worse, so much worse even though it shouldn’t be
That could be useful at night during hayfever season
And eating people is useful during nofoodbigstarve season, but is it right though?
I mean you could also culture booger cells
Could make booger candy
Remember that guy on Reddit who claims he had to have his leg amputated and he somehow got to keep it, and he and his friends cooked and ate it?
That’s weird, but as long as it remains their own, or consenting others, I think it’s fine. The minute capitalism gets involved I think it becomes exploitative and unethical - long pork in the grocery store fundamentally should not be a thing.
God help me if I live in some commie zone where they take my amputated body parts to give to everyone. I grew those and they’re mine! Fuck your science, I wanna eat my foot.
Who gave a Resident Evil villager access to Lemmy 💀
To me that’s more ethical than killing of billions of animals, and the latter is considered ethical. I wouldn’t do that because that would feel weird, but not unethical.
To me that’s more ethical than killing of billions of animals, and the latter is considered ethical.
I think most people would actually consider factory farming unethical, they just put the blame on the producers for treating animals like shit. And the producers are locked into a race to the bottom for competitive prices, so they’d blame the customers/market conditions.
I wouldn’t do that because that would feel weird,
I mean, it’s basically homemade spam. It’s kinda weird.
Would any of you care to taste my meat?
Looks cool. Will take a chance to try and grow my own steak, but i probably wont eat it.
Wait. Isnt this infinite food? Cut off 1cm2 of skin, grow a steak, and ‘free’ dinner? Lets actually read thw article.
You would have to “feed” it nutrition while it grows into the steak, so not infinite and not free unfortunately
“Eat my ass!”
“Don’t mind if I do.”
hummm delicious cancer meet
