Edit:
The poll stopped me in my tracks but it’s actually even worse.
It should not take this long to get to imdb
Edit2: didn’t even realize it thinks I’ll “love it” based on things I look up. I don’t think I’d like it.
Edit³: IMDb was the example I used without thinking. I’m aware that there’s a link to it in the top card. It’s the other web results that I don’t already know about that I’d like to see. I now know there’s a hidden “web” tab. There’s also https://www.google.com/search?udm=14&q=example` but it’s still mildly infuriating that you have to know about these things to get the basic results we expected for years.
Your daily reminder that DDG also has an infinite scroll option under its settings. (Seriously, DDG’s Settings menu is so good.}
This is the impetus I needed
1 is the right number of info cards
This is why I use a search proxy. Still get Google results but with all the crap stripped away. Plus I can write custom search options so if I go
! imdb rise of the planet of the apes
it will do the search and just take me to the first resultWhich search proxy?
I have Whoogle running in a docker container
Member Googles!?
It sucks, yes. But, if you select the “web” tab instead of the “all” tab at the top of the page, you’ll get something more akin to what you’re looking for. There’s probably even a way to script it so that it defaults to that view.
The tab that you have to scroll past shopping to know it even exists.
Yep! So convenient /s
Damn. I switched to DDG like well over a year ago and thought I was just kind of putting up with it for the sake of privacy. Turns out I didn’t know how good I have it
Exactly. I’ve been using DDG for years now and when I have to use Google search for whatever reason, I am quickly reminded how crap ggl is.
I just wish DDG would finally kill their Apple Maps. Over here they’re so incredibly unusable it’s just not funny any more. I’ll take here maps before that POS.
It’s so bad that on desktop, you can’t even go and click on alternative elements on the map without explicitly changing your search terms to them. You see them, but they’re non-interactive. So the incredibly common case “I remember the name of the restaurant next to this place” (or something similar) cannot be done on DDG, on account of getting Apple money to include their maps.
Completely agree! I wish you could choose which map to use. I still use and love google maps.
Using a specialized tool for the task is the way to go, in my opinion. I use OpenStreetMaps when I need to look at the map. If I’m looking for some famous(ish) place, I look it up on Wikipedia and jump to OSM from there.
DDG is moving into the same direction. I had to use ublock to hide the news block that appears when I’m searching for a movie/show in order to avoid spoilers.
In fact this was one of the key features lauded about DDG in its early days, the “instant result”-boxes.
Google kinda only went hard on them afterwards, probably seeing a good idea over at DDG because for the vast majority of people, they’re looking for answers and results, not specifically objects of type link-to-search-result. They don’t need a list of links, so long as the information they were after is reliably in those generated cards.
See OP wanting an IMDB link, which is directly there as Google correctly assumed that’s a very very very common use case for googling the name of a movie.
IMDB I can accept, random news websites - no.
Kagi has all these options as well but everything can be disabled in the settings.
I had the identical reaction. Thanks OP for posting this repellent screenshot. So glad I changed my defaults.
It shouldn’t take this long to get to imdb
In case anyone here isn’t aware, you can directly search IMDB from DuckDuckGo by using the bang
!imdb
.I can also search IMDB from IMDB.
SearXNG is the best
Man, I hate people like you, because I am constantly reminded of how I really need to get round to checking out Searx, but I never get round to it.
(I am joking, because the only person who is putting pressure on me about this is me, and that’s because finding time to do this is something I want to do. Thank you for reminding me, even if I will keep procrastinating)
NGL, it’s a pain in the ass to get it done the first time.
Docker -> Cloudflare is a lot of learning if you don’t already have the skillset.
And it does have issues on locale based searches, when meta searches do geo lookups, you end up on partner nodes.
Dunno what is wrong with you guys, but IMDB is on the first page for me, with no scrolling. But I don’t use my phone like a plebeian.
maybe not but you act like one… pleb
🤓🤓🤡
Are those the Results of the Search of the Rise of the Return of the Planet of the Apes?
Here’s duckduckgo result for comparison
Here is Kagi. It is customizable, so it will look different for everyone.
Did you move your videos section? Mine is at the top (but I’m also on mobile)
I don’t recall editing placement, only filtering sources from the search.
Here’s AskJeeves result for comparison
That’s spectacularly bad.
Yeah I have no idea what any if that is! I miss Jeeves :(
Wow, that’s incredibly bad.
Damn, I knew Jeeves had fallen but this is actually baffling.
In fairness, IMDB is right there on the first info card.
As a side point: IMDB’s page is even more obtuse and unnavigable than it was 5 years ago. Literally no hotbar…
Every front end design dev that graduated in the last decade is brain damaged
That’s Amazon’s way of working. They push the content that they want you to use over what you want to use.
This seems so fuckdamn back asswards to me. I mean the website experience is 80% of the service. Why alienate visitors for the CHANCE to upsell them when failure means they stop using the service?
I mean let’s consider the opposite: What if every time you opened the page, stuff you WANTED was there instead of stuff THEY want you to want? I guarantee that would drive sales and satisfaction better than the impulse buy chinese shit that breaks in 3 uses.
It’s not the individual contributors writing the website that are making these decisions, it’s people in $1000 suits, sitting on the 44th floor of a Manhattan skyrise asking “how do we make red line go up?”.
There were at least a group of people overseeing the redesign, and none of them thought that making the site harder to navigate would turn off visitors, all they saw was the opportunity to advertise even harder.
MBAs are ruining literally everything and it’s getting to the point where they need to be dragged out into the streets.
I remember a time where you could get multiple search results without scrolling
So one doesn’t count.
Yes, but their edit says that it shouldn’t take so long to get to IMDB which is what I was commenting on.
The fact that there is only one result is awful.
But this genuinely feels sensible?
The generated abstract includes the commonly needed links - including the IMDB you want and Rotten Tomatoes that I frequently want - and the very first result after that is Wikipedia for when you need that.
It’s like the best abstraction so you don’t have to wade through results, correctly understanding that if you search by just the title, you probably want information of through-links to common information/review sites.
They took it too far. A few cards can be convenient (though I feel bad for site runners) but the poll?
To be fair. All the information for the movie is right there at the top. If you wanted just info about the movie.
The poll though… Ya… That’s kinda crazy.
You’d think that if you knew the answer to the poll question, you wouldn’t have Googled the title of the movie. I just don’t understand the thought process that led to this happening.
If you’ve seen a movie you wouldn’t search for it?
Not really, unless I wanted to know more about a specific part of it, like an explanation for a scene or the screen writer or wherever, and then I’d Google with keywords specific for that, not just the movie name. If I’m just searching a movie name it would probably be too know whether stuff Google throws up on top of their results, to be fair to them.
Love the podcast, yeah.
The IMDb is there at the top. Just Under the white YouTube box. It tells the rating. But if you click it goes to the IMDb page for it
I switched to DuckDuckGo on all my devices and I get shocked that people can’t find anything when they search.
Momentum’s a bitch. I’ve been using google search since I lost touch with Jeeves and that pile of dogs ran away.
…dogs?
'Member when they said ‘don’t be evil’?
all of us ‘you cant keep relying on corporations, they will betray you, every single corporate product you consume is basically the one ring’ open source nerds get to say the MOST satisfying “I told you so”'s. nobody cares, of course, you’ll all keep using this shit, but it feels SO good.
open source nerds need to keep their fucking mouths shut until they deliver a end-user grade linux distro.
It’s been 25 fuckdamn years already…
I mean, we do, and there are different philosophies of computing that have different effects on users, and the philosophy that users should be infantilized and USED instead of grown and nurtured as peddled by shit heads like steve jobs is exemplified by all the enshittification currently dominating every single thing you’ve bought in the last decade that had so much as an RFID chip in it.
but also, it would be great if windows would deliver an end user grade windows distro. i miss those.
the point is, these corporate products are not usable, they are not stable, and they are not a good long term decision. any business that uses these is unbelievably stupid and deserves to get crowdstruck. the fact that the instability is political and your shit can just be bricked remotely on zero notice rather than due to being difficult to configure is not a point in their favor.
And you wonder why people don’t take linux cultists seriously…
yes, im a linux cultist who was really sad when windows 7 stopped getting updates.
instability is instability. you don’t make a factory in a politically unstable place, and you don’t use a product from a for-profit company that is prone to enshittification and could remotely brick it at any point without warning. risks are risks.