Vance also seemed to agree when a podcast host suggested that having grandparents help raise children was a ‘weird, unadvertised feature of marrying an Indian woman’
JD Vance agreed with the notion that raising grandchildren was “the whole purpose of the postmenopausal female,” an unearthed 2020 podcast shows.
Vance also seemed to concur when the host suggested that having grandparents help raise children was a “weird, unadvertised feature of marrying an Indian woman.”
It’s the latest in comments from the Republican nominee for vice president about women and “traditional” roles that have drawn ire. Vance has faced intense criticism in recent weeks for previous sexist comments, including his remarks about “cat ladies.”
Right wing randos from the middle of nowhere, I get why they get pulled down the rabbit hole.
Elon Musk, is a hyper online nerd and he is constantly surrounded by yes men. I get why he got pulled down the rabbit hole.
Donald Trump is a Fox News grandpa who surrounds himself with the hard right because they support him unconditionally. I get why he got pulled down the rabbit hole.
But JD Vance is arguably the furthest down the rabbit hole of all of them, and I don’t get why.
Theoretically he’s the senator for a whole state who voted for Obama twice. His day job is in the Democrat-controlled Senate, if he wants to get anything done he needs to work with Democrats. How is he such a true believer in this stuff?!?
Vance used to be more of a center left guy until he got into politics to grift his way to VP. Read anything about him and you can easily see who he is pandering to.
this shouldn’t be ok with more than %4 of the population, but here we are, with %40+ thinking it just fine
If the press had any balls, they’d ask Vance about infertile women. But they never do.
My guess is that his answer would be any combination of:
- they’re useless and worthless
- they’re cumdumps
- they’re vectors for spreading SDTs
I suspect his answer would be the standard conservative Christian response that they should be foster or adoptive parents.
But what if they’re also not Christians? Because apparently that’s also a problem they have.
https://apnews.com/article/religion-lawsuits-tennessee-nashville-58900a55eb9344d4a51143325fa609c3
Goddamn, he’s such a creepy weirdo.
To be fair, this is a legitimate scientific hypothesis (the Grandmother Hypothesis) that attempts to explain why human females, unlike almost every other species, have a lifespan that outlasts their reproductive cycle. It’s just hypothesis, and even if it’s correct, drawing conclusions about women’s role in modern society based on a trait we developed before agriculture is just stupid, but what he’s saying isn’t as crazy as the headline is implying.
“It takes a village”
The single family unit isolated from outside help, whether it be community or extended family, while raising children is a pretty modern phenomenon.
Yeah, pretty much nothing in our biology has prepared us for late stage capitalism.
evolutionary biology doesn’t dictate my purpose as a man, nor should it dictate the purpose of a woman.
we’re not raping and murder machines and they’re not child rearing machines.
there’s no “to be fair”
Males absolutely are. The reason men aren’t, is because we couldn’t afford the infanticide, conflict and lack of genetic diversity. We have a lot of adaptations to navigate and reduce male aggression. From women killing their own newborns, to periods and ambryonic wasting, to monogamy, to a great theory of mind, to vindictiveness, to working together, to crying/smiling… it goes on.
The only reason you aren’t like the average ape, is because men adopted female ape behaviour. Ever read about just how much estrogens influence the development of the human brain? It gives us a lot of aspects that makes humans cool.
Male apes couldn’t care less about their offspring, but men express prolactin after their baby is born in order to take care of it. It’s why you don’t try to maul other men to be the only option left. It’s why rape is actually pretty rare in humans. It’s why rape is almost exclusively a matter of exerting power. Rather than a reproductibe strategy.
Men and women outlast their reproductive years. Though it is harder to reduce men’s fertility completely, it still occurs in the form of andropause. Since count and quality are important for sucess. If this wasn’t the case, men wouldn’t live as long as they do. (Just look at orca’s) Death is needed to prevent parents competing with their own offspring. It’s why we age.
evolutionary biology doesn’t dictate my purpose as a man, nor should it dictate the purpose of a woman.
Maybe you should have read all the way to my second sentence, where I made that exact point.
I did, and I’m just adding to it to say that there’s no reason to try to be charitable here.
There absolutely is. Vance is describing how his mother-in-law took a sabbatical to help with their first child, and this specific interaction becomes the focus of the article:
“That’s the whole purpose of the postmenopausal female in theory,” Weinstein said at the time.
“Yes,” Vance agreed.
That’s…mostly correct. He should has said, “hypothesis,” instead of, “theory,” and it’s certainly oversimplification, but otherwise, that’s a correct assessment of the Grandmother Hypothesis.
Now, it’s fucking weird to apply that hypothesis to modern society. It’s very strange how Vance can only analyze his mother-in-laws actions through the lens of traditional family values vs. free market capitalism. It’s also pretty telling that Vance ignores the racist comment the interviewer makes when he calls this, “a weird, unadvertised feature of marrying an Indian woman.” But the article glossed over those comments and goes out of its way to make the, “postmenopausal women,” statement sound crazy, without even acknowledging the Grandmother Hypothesis.
It’d be like if Vance said, “You know, if multiverse theory is correct, there may be an Earth where couches have vaginas,” and I wrote an article about how Vance has this crazy belief that there’s more than one Earth. That’s actually not that crazy, and it really shouldn’t be the focus.
That’s fair, I don’t think the nuance really changes how inappropriate his comments are (nor do you) but perhaps I was too harsh to say there’s no need to be charitable.
He’s a scumbag regardless, and I could understand not confronting the other person in the moment but afaik he hasn’t distanced himself from these comments since, but you weren’t making excuses for him as my reaction implied.
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Women are for reproduction use only. Men can fuck couches and dress up like women but their place is out in the world. Doing the tough jobs like I did when I was a US Marine, risking my life to write press releases and enjoy it in the rear, hahaha, that’s what she said. I am not weird, you’re weird. When a woman can no longer produce babies and her womb has dried up she should devote her time to raising the children of her husband’s young new baby machi…I mean grandchildren. In conclusion, Donny said I could say the n-word any time I want if he gets elected and he would also buy me a nice new sexy suede couch and he promised not to deport my brown wife and our Italian-level white children." - James David “My Preferred Name Is JD” Vance
Well, you certainly live up to your username! Damn! Tell em how you really feel!
I thought his name was Jorkin Depeanus
I thought this was not the onion
I hate pretty much everything he says but I hope they keep him out there just saying the dumbest shit he can think of
you know, it’s great. with both parents working, having a grandmother who raises them when the parents can’t is an invaluable blessing. it’s great for the kids because they feel more free with a grandparent who pampers them; it’s great for the grandma and makes up for the empty nest after her own kids grow up, you know you kind of miss looking after small kids, the way they talk and laugh is irreplaceable… it’s great for the parents who maybe don’t have the privilege of staying at home…
you know you could have said stuff like this. the underlying sentiment can easily be relayed like a human being. but no, you had to go with “that’s the whole purpose of postmenopausal female”. fucking weirdo.
More importantly, maybe grandma doesn’t want to raise your kid? My mom was helpful as long as she felt like it. My mother in law moved away so she didn’t have to feel guilty telling her kids she didn’t want to be a free babysitter anymore. When my kids were small I was annoyed, but as I get and feel older, I much better understand it.
Vance’s underlying sentiment is that women are only to be valued for their ability to pop out babies and keep them from ruining his naps.
Somebody should totally hack his phone and change all his ringtone to baby shark and cause every call marked “spam” or “telemarketer” or “blocked” to instead be treated like a priority call.
I love Vance for quotes like this.
More please - we still have a few weeks until November for him to continue sticking his foot in his mouth.
If you don’t like women you’re gay
It’s only gay if the balls touch and you forget “no homo”
How is grandparents helping raise your kid an “unadvertised feature of marrying an Indian woman”? I thought that was called “having a loving family”, so I guess I can see why that’s an “unadvertised feature”, but of marrying into a family that isn’t full of shit bags, not of a particular race.
Need to remember that with grandparents in particular, he has a skewed view. He was raised by the parents of his drug addict mom, he doesn’t have the “normal” frame of reference and may not realize that ALL grandparents are generally expected to (and most want to, in my experience) help with their grandchildren if they can.
Yep, I bet it’s a side effect of being raised in a negative conservative family and assuming all good families are like yours, because in that world familiar = good.
Does that mean if a white guy gets divorced and loses custody of his kids, he becomes a purposeless entity?
“That’s DIFFERENT”
Dude did you miss the part of your own sentence that said “white guy”?
This means he has a penis. And it is white. I don’t understand the question.
It really implies that grandfathers are useless lol. Only grandmothers have purpose.
That’s why women live 10 years longer on average. God made it saw. Man dies, woman raises grandkids then dies. /s
Well they plan to remove a woman’s ability to get a divorce, so if the white guy wants to keep his kids he just doesn’t divorce his wife. Problem solved! /s
is this man a ferengi
Well I DID hear him say that Walz doesn’t have the lobes to support an administration…
I actually inadvertently laughed out loud
