The shooter is a sovereign citizen.
I’m am sure this post will top the “sort by controversial” list.
From the article: “Cobb-Bey purchased the weapons legally”.
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I’m sorry. I need to vent
In the past 3 days I’ve been downvoted for commenting that gay people can adopt babies (in 196 for that matter) and asking why a news article about a bridge seemed to have one photo with a concrete floor and one with a wood floor. I commented asking why I was getting downvoted and someone told me it’s because I said it’s two different bridges (which I most certainly didn’t say) and someone else was sarcastic and rude
People on Lemmy are proving to get more toxic as time goes on. I’m considering going back to reddit more and more. Sure, the place is horrible, but I don’t feel bad about myself when I feel brave enough to comment
Edit: Can somebody who’s downvoting me please tell me what I said that was wrong? I really just want to know
Malicious downvoting is rampant here. People are a bit more silo’d on reddit which leads to less noise and more positivity when a user sticks to their chosen subs. I get the feeling that people here stick to the All or Local feeds which leads to a lot of negativity.
This makes a lot of sense. I do indeed stick to all on lemmy and the ignorant downvoting that often happens, reminds me of what would happen in default reddit subs like worldnews. My opt in reddit subs indeed had a way better crowd. The frontpage of Lemmy didn’t used to be this way when I first joined though.
Yeah, I’m guilty of it myself. It is a behavorial spiral that I have to jog myself out of. I kinda like the local feed because it feels manageable but I’ve also blocked hundreds of communities at this point.
In the past 3 days I’ve been downvoted for commenting that gay people can adopt babies (in 196 for that matter)
I was curious so I went looking in your post history for an innocent and clear comment communicating “that gay people can adopt babies”. I found your comment, and immediately understood why you were downvoted for it. Here it is in context:
The OP was this:
and your comment was below one response to the OP:
I don’t know if English is your second language, or if you’re not used to drawing meaning from poetry rather than fact from prose. The person you replied to was giving a poetic answer. Keep in mind, I’m not saying I agree or disagree with any of the opinions listed above, simply that I can grasp the ideas and concepts the people were communicating in what they wrote:
When that poster said poetically “Every man is the son of a woman” they were communicating the idea that every man, that grows up to be an “undesirable adult” (as reflected by the OPs post) was once, at least for a fraction of a second, under the care of a woman (as in: thats how biology works). Further, the vast majority of those that would be men were under the care of women for many years, and if they grew to be “undesirable”, then previous generations of women had a hand in raising them that way and are therefore at least partially responsible for them being “undesirable”. Again, I’m not lending my voice in agreement or disagreement, I’m simply translating what they were saying poetically into an easier to understand block of text for you. It is up to you to form your own opinion.
What you responded with was appearing to contradict the poster as though they wrote prose. You focused exclusively on the idea that a tiny fraction of men are raised by a set of same sex parents ignoring the fact that the vast men aren’t raised in that situation. Further your “yes and no” seemed to suggest it could be as high as 50/50 split, which is of course, far far from reality.
Your downvotes were earned by you with people essentially saying:
If you need another example to highly what you did. Imagine the original post was Shakespeare’s like from Romeo and Juliet:
“What’s in a name? That which we call a rose, by any other word would smell as sweet.”
And you responded with:
“Shakespeare was probably referring to Old Garden Roses (Rosaceae Gallicas) and it does have a unique fragrance”
You might be kind of factually correct, but Shakespeare was writing poetically, not referring to a specific plant, but that the properties of the thing apply to it irrespective of whatever name we attach to it. Nobody cares what the genus and species of rose Shakespeare was referring to because the meaning of the idea he was communicating was separate from that.
I just read your two comments. I mean this as constructive and helpful. Sorry if it comes off as rude.
On the bridge you start interrogating about the incorrect answer to your first question. It’s quite presumptuous. I wouldn’t have downvoted. But it also doesn’t seem like a big deal.
On your gay adoption comment, I get what you were saying. It came off really pedantic. But also, the implication is hilarious that the way to make men “manly” is to have them raised by gay men.
That really does help. Thank you
I didn’t mean to be presumptive or interrogative. I meant to just include a second part if (and only if) it was relevant. I see now how it can easily come across that way
Would you be able to further explain the implication you mentioned? I don’t understand how you got there. I don’t mean to say you’re wrong or anything. I just don’t get the connection
No worries. I don’t mind being told that I’m wrong. And the implication I mentioned is purely just my own observation.
The post to me sounded like they were calling out their sister who thinks men are being raised to be too feminine. It’s a common accusation that younger people are “raised by women” without enough masculine role models. It’s all Alpha-Beta theory BS.
The commenter you replied to was saying that applies to every son.
Your comment seemed to inadvertently offer a solution that the Alpha-Beta types would NOT be happy with, gay parents. No “mothering” required.
Thank you again. I’m not sure I would have ever made that connection if not for you
I think lurking is probably best for me
To be clear, I don’t think the implication was why you were downvoted. I think you just sounded a bit pedantic. Like you were correcting them without adding to the conversation.
I just happened to enjoy the pendantry.
By the way, I’ve also been in a position where I was downvoted with zero explanation, even after asking for it. So I get the frustration. Even a bad explanation is preferred to no explanation. So I hope that helps and you continue to contribute however you feel comfortable.
The majority of lemmy is grade school/high school aged kids. Don’t expect reasonable responses to anything here and you’ll do just fine.
Is it? Ive only ever heard people claim the age skews much older, 30s at least.
I’m not sure anyone can ever know- but I base my evaluation on the immaturity and ignorance that so prevalent here.
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Folks could gain a lot from blocking communities with which they only participate by downvote.
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I do not think it is different.
Yeah. I went back to Reddit myself a bit over a month ago. Rarely come here anymore. It’s become a far left echo chamber for kids that barely know how the real world operates, and are far too stubborn to listen to anyone that tries to explain it to them.
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Thank you. I feel a lot better knowing it’s just morons like you downvoting me. To be honest, I had no idea a stereotype like you actually existed
I feel so bad for you that I actually feel better about myself!
Sovereign citizen kills sovereign citizen.
Domestic terrorism
Yeah, it’s not surprising that people see the police as terrorists and are starting to take their city back.
When SovCits stop being funny.
When did this happen again?
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Yeah one step onto YouTube informed me of their violent bullshit.
I missed the part where fighting among two groups of belligerent assholes who think they’re above the law isn’t funny.
I would say that most people with empathy do not find humor in double homicide.
Dallas police can murder people legally. I don’t have empathy for roving gangs of state-sanctioned murderers.
That’s the sort of non-empathic “some people deserve to die” attitude that keeps the death penalty around.
Empathy for rapists and murderers is NOT the reason I’m against the death penalty.
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I despise cops for obvious reasons but I honestly don’t think anyone gets paid enough to deal with sovcits.
Fucking hell that title. Made me think a police officer shot two other police officers.
I wish.
That comma is working hard.
I had to read that title several times.
Probably because it’s hiding under that apostrophe
Is it not grammatically correct? Like I almost missed it under the apostrophe too but that’s how you’re supposed to do it
I think so, too. But maybe because you expect the closing apostrophe you completely miss the comma.
I bet the officer reached towards his waistband or glovebox. He thought he had something in his hand. The officer was acting suspicious. The officer had a history of crime, a runin with the law when he was 12.The sovcit felt threatened and had to defend himself! Those are the talking points, right?
The SovCits have
qualified immunityno contract with the government and thus are not subject to laws.Can you really trust anyone who interacts with criminals on a daily basis?
I can’t remember where I saw it, because it has been years, but a bunch of the Sovcits were passing a video of a man, that state police pulled over, threatening that if they didn’t just leave, he was going to start a gun fight. So they left. They were all sharing it around, claiming victory, sucking each other off. Then, like a year or so later, a news article came out where they decided to watch the guy closely. Instead of just arresting him, they collected a bunch of criminal infractions to charge him with. Then, when he was coming out of some store, or restaurant, or whatever, they ambushed him and took him in.
Long story short, he had CP. Possibly was paying an underage girl for sex. ALL the sovcit hang-outs were immediately perma-banning anyone who posted it.
Like, I passionately despise the legal industry here. From the cops to the legislators. However, all they have done is make it so cops assume anyone, who doesn’t immediately start sucking them off, is a sovcit. This makes them even more likely to be violent, and they do everything they can to make sure anyone that doesn’t listen to their unlawful BS, is associated with that movement.
Maybe it had something to do with the “justice” system finding that Breonna Taylor was “actually killed by her boyfriend.”
I know that made me really angry, I can only imagine how others might have felt.
Very unlikey. Apparently it was a “sovereign citizen”
Look, it’s bad enough as it is, but you don’t have to lie on the quote. It never said that in the article.
U.S. District Judge Charles Simpson’s ruling declared that the actions of Taylor’s boyfriend, who fired a shot at police the night of the raid, were the legal cause of her death, not a bad warrant.
That’s the quote. I didn’t lie, I shortened it.
You used quotes. That’s for repeating what someone said verbatim. And “the legal cause ofnher death” is very different than she was killed by the boyfriend.
They had so many dogs left to kill, taken before their prime.
I feel as bad for this guy as cops do for George Floyd.
Was the Cop on Drugs? Was he wearing a Hoodie? Did he smoke a Joint once? Was he Sleeping? ALL these things are Things Cops have Killed people over so it’s safe to Assume these are Dangerous Activities that REQUIRE violent intervention!
This post has brought out the worst of Lemmy. At least I can find respite in the fact that those glorifying this are merely edgelord keyboard warriors and have absolutely no measurable impact on the real world.
A lot of people can’t see past their hate.
I do tend to hate people who do violence for a living. Do you not?
I’m sure Genevive Dawes learned to see past whatever hate she had after she fucking died at the hands of a Dallas police officer who had been internally investigated ten times and then was acquitted for the sole fact that he murdered her while being a cop. I’ll bet it’s hard to hate someone when your mother is burying you in the ground because this Alex Jones’ inbred cousin-looking motherfucker wasn’t put in jail after ten documented cases of physically abusing civilians.
Unless you’re suggesting that this man was involved in that situation, there’s room to feel sympathy for both murder victims. I know I do.
This man was a teacher and coach for 16 years who only recently became a police officer, and now he’s gone. If your first reaction to this news isn’t sadness, then I don’t know what to tell you.
Unless you’re suggesting that this man was involved in that situation, there’s room to feel sympathy for both murder victims.
This cop is either one of the ones committing atrocities, or one of the ones that stand by, hold the “thin blue line”, and enable the ones committing atrocities.
ACAB has no exceptions.
Did you just ignore the second paragraph?
You know that there ARE some who get into that for every correct reason?
Wow why are you so hateful, can’t you love these fine people?
Cops? No, never.
I think you might’ve missed that Timbits was being sarcastic.
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Live by the sword.
I see both sides. There’s a great deal of corruption, racism, and ineptitude and shit behaviour by a lot of cops that has led to a deep mistrust and dislike, and it’s valid. Do they deserve to be executed by batshit right wing conspiracy crazies? No. They deserve regulation and discipline and overhaul.
I’d argue a good 50% deserves exactly what this guy got. I don’t feel bad for pieces of garbage (re: any cop) and don’t care what you think about it. They can all eat shit.
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Whatever you do, don’t look at the Ukrainian communities after a fresh drop of drone footage. If this makes you clutch your pearls…
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That Russian was just sitting in his trench. The cop was just sitting in his car. The Russians invaded Ukraine. The cops declared war on minorities. Sure they called it drugs, but we have Nixon on tape admitting it was about minority and liberal communities.
Isn’t it funny that we know that now and these places haven’t taken their foot off the gas in regards to drugs and broken windows? You may choose to ignore it but large parts of our country don’t have that choice.
How absolutely demented do you have to be to declare being a cop is analogous to Russia invading Ukraine
I’m not the one telling them to think like an invading army and commit acts that would be a war crime if the military did it.
Now to be clear they aren’t committing crimes at the same rate as the Russian Army who is using chemical warfare daily now, but the general comparison is a lot closer than I think many Americans are comfortable with.
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Dirty cops belong in jail, not to be executed in the streets.
Vengeance is not justice.
All cops are dirty.
And I’d agree that execution isn’t the preferred method of dealing with the problem. But it’s happened now, so oh well.
Okay put it this way then. The actively dirty ones go to prison, the passively dirty ones get fired.
Look no more cops and we avoided the reign of terror.
The actively dirty ones go to prison
No they don’t, and they never will if we keep perpetuating this ridiculous pearl-clutching, cop-venerating bullshit where calling them out for what they are – a state-sanctioned gang – is stigmatized.
That’s the point. I want the dirty ones in prison.
There’s an article on the front page right now about how a cop who raped his daughters was given custody and the mother imprisoned for refusing court mandated Christian reunification therapy.
Cops don’t have consequences
No. That’s the proposal. I know they aren’t facing consequences right now.
I’d gladly take a non-lethal outcome, but I didn’t decide this act and I had zero influence on it.
I’m not going to lose sleep over it either tho mind you.
That’s really all I’m trying to avoid. This country is going to blow it’s top off if we keep treating the people as an exploitable resource. I just don’t want to deal with a reign of terror.
Complacency and indifference in the face of injustice begets further injustice. It’s hypocritical to then claim to seek justice.
I don’t want “justice”, I don’t want cops.
I want to protect lives and make the world a better place.
Oh and during war, armed resistance is morally fine.
yet, you seem tolerant of murder and vengeance. so, you would appear to only want to protect certain lives and make the world a better place for some. and who would be the one to decide who benefits from this “better world”? you?
Yes I accept people die during war. It happens.
not really sure where dying during war comes into play when discussing this murder of police officers…
i think you replied to the wrong comment
And who gets to decide when we’re at war about what
You want good people protected, how do you propose we do that without any group that is very cop like in their responsibilities?
We have neither. All rights are won through violence.
And what rights do you not have now that you believe you will win by murdering police?
Strawman
why? because you don’t have a snappy answer? no anarchist slogan in your pocket you can throw back?
Lol pound sand
nah, you’ve already gone low enough, what, with the cheering murder and all…
Historically inaccurate
