Trump isn’t an icon of positive masculinity. He also did very little for young men during his four years as president

  • ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com
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    2 months ago

    Yes, I agree with all of that. But “there’s a bigger problem” or “Trump voters know who he is” isn’t the same as “the US got what it deserves.”

    I’m specifically taking issue with “deserves.”. “Deserves” implies Trump represents the US, which would only be true if the majority of the US (or US voters) chose Trump. We didn’t. That’s important because he’s not just a dangerous leader, and an autocrat, he’s one that does not have a mandate of the people.

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      2 months ago

      He still has the support of about 80 million people. While not the majority, neither is it a neglible amount compared to the total. If about a quarter to a third of your population are basically Nazis, you do have a much bigger problem, and the “deserves” - while definitely controversial - does start to kind of figure in the equation.

      The world didn’t exactly simply forgive the German citizenry after WW2 either, and for good cause.

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        2 months ago

        To expand upon that point: if y’all non-MAGA Americans think that the rest of the Germans had a moral obligation to revolt against the Nazis, well, you’d better have a good long think about your current situation.

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        2 months ago

        I don’t understand why you are getting downvoted. This was an incredibly salient point.

        What we are observing is that regardless of our vast technological progression, a statistically significant percentage of the population continues to suffer from a clinical form of emotional retardation that has severely stunted their ability to think rationally, to feel empathy, or in many cases both.

        At some point our species is going to have to learn how to correct for this aberration, or we will reach an untimely evolutionary dead end.