• Agent641@lemmy.world
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    ChatGPT4o can do some impressive and useful things. Here, Im just sending it a mediocre photo of a product with no other context, I didnt type a question. First, its identifying the subject, a drink can. Then its identifying the language used. Then its assuming I want to know about the product so its translating the text without being asked, because it knows I only read english. Then its providing background and also explaining what tamarind is and how it tastes. This is enough for me to make a fully informed decision. Google translate would require me to type the text in, and then would only translate without giving other useful info.

    It was delicious.

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      And good luck typing that in if you don’t know the alphabet it’s written in and can’t copy/paste it.

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      The search engine LLMs suck. I’m guessing they use very small models to save compute. ChatGPT 4o and Claude 3.5 are much better.

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    This is not going to stop me from wanting better research. I’ll still go to Userbenchmark just to be sure. AI isn’t going to tell me what it thinks and expect me to take it face value.

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      I think you’re missing that the AI said “The XTX is great, the XT is not worth it: choose the XT”.

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      A good AI summary would tell you the benchmark scores and general pricing, but yes, it’s better to go to UserBenchmark anyway— especially since the whole ploy from search is to keep you from going there, robbing the original source of it’s ad revenue.

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    That’s a good summary. Google Gemini is no better. Type in a question and it starts off great but then devolves into other brands, other steps to do something that isn’t related to the thing you asked. It’s just terrible and someone will sue them over it next year. Just wait.

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    Yeah AI can be wonky, but what idiot would spend a shitload of money on a graphics card without even being willing to click an article and read a bit?

    It’s on you if you do that. Even if the AI shit worked way better, why would you trust there aren’t shady things happening to influence the AI and have you spend more money.

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      My dad falls into this category he constantly replaces things with way worse things just because they are new, I can’t get my mind round how he can replace really good working stuff with new junk that isn’t even capable of doing the job.

      Wish I was joking but he does this constantly.

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        Thats where you say “hey dad do you still need this janky old…”

        Then when the new stuf breaks you can come over and be the hero using his old reliable stuff.

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          If only he tends to give these things to the conmen installing the junk. I’ve tried to stop him wasting his money so many times but it’s futile I’ve tried to use his latest oven he had an amazing one before but when I tried to use the new one following every instruction he said and the actual manual I looked up online myself the food came out later absolutely fridge cold.

          He insists his new cooker is brilliant, what can you do with that response to something that’s obviously broken from new and he should be returning.

          He might need a home but I can’t do that to him truthfully, I just wish he had some common sense when it comes to things like appliances etc.

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    Hello, fellow humans. I too am human, just like you! I have skin, and blood, and guts inside me, which is not at all disgusting. Just another day of human!

    Won’t you share a delicious cup of motor oil lemonaide with me? It’s nice and refridgerated, so it will cool down our bodies without the use of cooling fans!

    However we too can use cooling fans. They will just be placed on the ceiling, or in a box, or self standing, and oscillating. Not at all inside our bodies, connected to a board controlled by our CPUs that we clearly don’t have!

    Now come, let us take our colored paper with numbers and pictures of previous human rulers and exchange them for human food prepared by not fully adult humans who haven’t matured to the age where their brains develop the ability to care about food sanitation. Then we shall complain that our meal cost too many paper dollars, while recieving less and less potato stick products every year. Ignoring completely the risk of heart disease by indulging in the amounts of food we desire to aquire.

    Finally we shall retreat to our place of residence, and complain on the internet that our elected leaders are performing poorly. Rather than terminate the program vote the poor performing humans out, we shall instead complain that it is other humans fault for voting them in. Making no attempt to change our broken system that has been broken our entire existence, with no signs of improving. Instead every 4 years we will make an effort to write down names of people we’ve already complained about in the hopes that enough people write down the same names, and that will fix the problem.

    Oh. Shall I request amazon.com to purchase more fans and cooling units? The news being reported that tempatures will soon reach 130F on a regular basis, and all humans will slowly perish.

    Shall I share photographs of the new CEO of starbucks who’s daily commute involves a personal jet aircraft, which surely isn’t compounding the problem at all?

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    I switched to duckduckgo before this bullshit, but this would 100% make me switch if I hadn’t already.

    Who wants random ai gibberish to be the first thing they see?

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      Better than an Ad I guess? Not sure if my searches haven’t returned any AI stuff like this or if my brain is already ignoring them like ads.

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        The plan is to monetize the AI results with ads.

        I’m not even sure how that works, but I don’t like it.

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      DuckDuckGo started showing AI results for me.

      I think it uses the bing engine iirc.

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        And you can use multiple models, which I find handy.

        There is some stuff that AI, or rather LLM search, is useful for, at least the time being.

        Sometimes you need some information that would require clicking through a lot of sources just to find one that has what you need. With DDG, I can ask the question to their four models*, using four different Firefox containers, copy and paste.

        See how their answers align, and then identify keywords from their responses that help me craft a precise search query to identify the obscure primary source I need.

        This is especially useful when you don’t know the subject that you’re searching about very well.

        *ChatGPT, Claude, Llama, and Mixtral are the available models. Relatively recent versions, but you’ll have to check for yourself which ones.

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      If search engines don’t improve to address the AI problem, most of the Internet will be AI gibberish.

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        The good thing about that is that this kills the LLMs, since new models can only be trained on this LLM generated gibberish, which makes the gibberish they’ll generate even more garbled and useless, and so on, until every model you try to train can only produce random useless unintelligible garbage.

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        The internet as we knew it is doomed to be full of ai garbage. It’s a signal to noise ratio issue. It’s also part of the reason the fediverse and smaller moderated interconnected communities are so important: it keeps users more honest by making moderators more common and, if you want to, you can strictly moderate against AI generated content.

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    Here is what kagi delivers with the same prompt:

    NB: quick answer is only generated when ending your search with a question mark

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        And even if it’s showing the correct number, you can’t be sure how trustworthy the source is.

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          This applies to any information though, it’s got nothing to do with LLMs specifically.

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            Not really, no. Sources of infornation gain a reputation as time goes on. So, even though you should still check with multiple sources, you can sort of know if a certain bit of information is likely to be correct or not.

            On the other hand, LLM’s will quote different sources and sometimes it will only provide them if you ask it to. Even then it can hallucinate and quote a source that doesn’t actually exist, so there’s that as well.

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        At least it’s citing sources and you can check to make sure. And from my anecdotal evidence it has been pretty good so far. It also told me on some occasions that the queried information was not found in it’s sources instead of just making something up. But it’s not perfect for sure, it’s always better to do manual research but for a first impression and to find some entry points I’ve found it useful so far

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          The problem is that you need to check those sources today make sure it’s not just making up bullshit and at that point you didn’t gain anything from the genai

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            As I said the links provide some entry points for further research. It’s providing some use to me because I don’t need to check every search result. But to each their own and I understand the general scepticism of generative “AI”

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              The sources are the same result of the search? Or at least the top results?

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              If you don’t check everyone source. It might be just bullshitting you. There’s people who followed your approach and got into hot shit with their bosses and judges

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                There is absolutely value in something compiling sources for you to personally review. Anyone who cannot use AI efficiently is analogous to someone who can’t see the utility in a graphing calculator. It’s not magic, it’s a tool. And tools need to be used precisely, and for appropriate purposes.

                My plumber fucks up I don’t blame his wrench. My lawyers don’t vet their case work, I blame them.

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                  It’s an LLM. Odds are it’s hallucinating the sources and they don’t even exist.

                  Know what does compile sources for you which are guaranteed to exist and be related to what you’re looking for…? A good old not LLM infected search engine.

                  If my plumber replaces their wrench for a rabid gerbil claiming it’ll be just as good I’m definitely changing plumbers.

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          When I query an AI I always end with “provide sources and bibliography for your reply”. That seems to get better replies.

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    At the very least it failed in a way that’s obvious by giving you contradictory statements. If it left you with only the wrong statements, that’s when “AI” becomes really insidiuos.