• Rapidcreek@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Funny that just last week an American was shot in the head, executed by Hamas, and there wasn’t an Intercept article mentioning it. Maybe it’s just not fashionable to be outraged about it, and it wouldn’t get enough clicks.

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      That’s outrageous. We should immediately stop funding Hamas.

      No more weapons packages.
      No more military funding.
      The Gerald R. Ford Carrier Strike Group should stop supporting them now.

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      People expect terrorists to shoot innocent people in the head. They don’t accept it when people claiming to fight terrorists shoot innocent people in the head.

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        Ask a Palestinian in the West Bank if they think Hamas are terrorists or freedom fighters.

        “Terrorist” is a thought-terminating cliche.

        Both Israel and Hamas are religious extremists who exploit and murder innocent civilians. Neither one is worthy of our aid or our defense. Send aid to the poor people caught in the middle of this shit and stop sending weapons.

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          The question isn’t why Palestinians aren’t reporting on Hamas killing someone, the question is why isn’t the West reporting on it.

          Hamas killing someone is expected behavior.

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          2 months ago

          Weapons. That’s the connection.

          The US sends vast arsenals to Israel and Israel uses those weapons for genocide and other war crimes.

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            2 months ago

            This woman was killed with small arms fire. The US does not supply such weapons or ammo to Isreal.

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              If you look hard enough you can always find a nit to pick.

              When there are billions of dollars of heavy weapons pounding the entire area to dust, it’s completely disingenuous to talk about who paid for a particular bullet or gun.

              The entire operation is heavily subsidized by US military donations.

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                A rational person would surmise that if the weapon wasn’t US supplied she would have been shot in any case and weapons supplied by the US has nothing to do with the fact this is not about US politics.

                But, the outrage machine doesn’t look at facts.

                They simply deal with hyperbolic nonsense, like your last sentance.

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                  A rational person would take the information in context. The shooter was not acting in isolation. The shooter was part of an organized military that is heavily subsidized by the US government.

                  What’s hyperbolic about the last sentence? It’s an easily demonstrated fact that the US sends billions of dollars in military aid to Israel. It’s an easily verified fact that this is a large portion of Israel’s military budget.

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                    The Israeli military is not subsidized by the US Government. Certain of their weapons are. This includes air frames, ordinance and assembly pieces. The rest of the military cost of other weapons, wages, training and maintenance is completely paid by the Israeli government. They can not spend the US Congress allocation on anything but US goods. Isreal builds it’s own small arms, tanks, rockets, etc. With their own money.

                    This article has nothing to US Politics.

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      “Why don’t you ever talk about the deaths centrists aren’t happy about?!”

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        I would hope that if you are any kind of US citizen, you would not be happy about it either. There are forest and trees, but you only see one.

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          I’m not. I’m also not cynically using it to whatabout in favor of a genocidal apartheid state like you’re doing.

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            All of a sudden by questioning the Intercept I’m supporting some state? That line of logic just doesn’t exist.

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                I was making mention of publishing one story and ignoring another. The Intercept only wants to trigger you, and it looks like they were successful

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                  You were whining that the intercept isn’t running articles you would prefer to see and instead running articles you don’t want anyone to ever know about.

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          We only fund one of these warring terrorist groups. Do not see that difference?

          Our taxes paid for the killing of a US citizen.

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            So the Intercept is triggering you with this death for a purpose of government funding, while ignoring the other? IDK which is worse and it is what I said originally. Shame these young people died, but in one case we know what happened, but in this case we don’t.

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              We know exactly what happened, the US is just using delay tactics. Why are you upset that people are upset about the extrajudicial killing of an American Citizen by a foreign State. The IDF has killed so many American Citizens already, on top of you know, the genocide.

              American-Turkish human rights activist Aysenur Ezgi Eygi, 26, succumbed to her wounds on Friday after being shot in the head by Israeli forces during a weekly protest against settlement expansions in the West Bank, according to Palestinian Authority-run news outlet Wafa.

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                    In the case of Ashli Babbitt there were multiple eye witnesses as well who said there was no reason that she was shot. In fact she and those eye witnesses were warned to go no further or they would be shot.

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              So the Intercept is triggering you with this death

              Just ignore it if it makes Netanyahu look bad!

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              so you dont see the difference between us killing one of our own and someone else doing it?

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                Both are dead.

                We didn’t kill anyone. We don’t know the facts, that’s why the US State Department is investigating.

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                  US State Department is investigating waiting for idf to investigate.

                  It’s almost been a year of Israel indiscriminately killing in the area and the state department still refuses to do an investigation. Still waiting for Israel to investigate themselves.

                  But yeah sure. We’re totally gonna do something other than fund and supply weapons

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                    This has nothing to do with the finding of fact as to how this woman died

                    In fact,it’s not true. First, let’s ignore the fact that this woman apparently from small arms fire which we don’t supply to the Israelis. Congress wrote a bill to supply other weapons to Isreal. to Isreal. It was unable to put restrictions on sale. That left it in Biden’s lap. Biden asked State to evaluate how the Israelis were using weapons as it pertains to standing US law. The result was that State could not find a legal reason not to supply.

                    You can have your own feelings on the matter, but not your own facts

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      Are you actually claiming there was no media coverage of the murdered hostages?

      There is a very good argument that the role of non mainstream news sources, like the Intercept, it to shed light on the news that mainstream media doesn’t raise.

      If the CNN was blasting 24 hours the news about this American being shot, I’m pretty sure the Intercept would not bother either.

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        Just an observation on the nature of media and events. The Intercept is hardly mainstream. Instead of reporting facts it produces outrage purposed dribble, and this is a good example. In this case, those facts are not determined, and the US State Department is seeking them. That’s the way CNN reported it anyway. Should this turn into an Ashli Babbitt situation, the Intercept will not report it and it will not be here because it won’t suit the fashionable narrative.

        On a side note, I wonder what this story has to do with US Politics. Although I do see a mod in the string who should be able to explain that, but probably won’t