For those baffled by Donald Trump’s forays into meandering discourses about electrocution, bacons sales or cannibal killers at his recent political rallies, the former US president had an explanation.
Trump assured supporters in Pennsylvania on Saturday that what might look like incoherent ramblings as he frequently departed from his scripted speech were instead indicators of his brilliance that impressed other great minds.
“I do the weave. You know what the weave is? I’ll talk about, like, nine different things that they all come back brilliantly together. And it’s like friends of mine that are like English professors, they say: ‘It’s the most brilliant thing I’ve ever seen,’” he told a bemused audience.
“But the fake news, you know what they say, ‘He rambled.’ It’s not rambling. What you do is you get off a subject to mention another little tidbit, then you get back on to the subject, and you go through this and you do it for two hours, and you don’t even mispronounce one word.”
But, increasingly, many others are not persuaded, including some of his own supporters.
What he’s describing is at best a symptom of unmedicated/undermedicated adhd and also not what he does
Don’t forget he has serious issues with Adderall as well.
I can forgive the author if they were trying to sneak this story past an editor who would have otherwise vetoed it. There’s no question that a person who gives meaningless speeches sucks at communicating. That’s definitional. The only question is how messed up their head is, and you can only infer that through their words and actions.
My explanation is:
- He gives a lot of speeches
- He has almost zero knowledge of government and policy. He likely thinks the US Treasury is responsible for protecting the treasure that’s mapped on the declaration of independence.
- He can’t read very well, and given his inability to sound the words out mid-speech he needs to fill in the parts of the teleprompter that has long words with whatever he can come up with on the spot.
… seriously? That’s all you got??
His father had dementia (thus genetically predisposed), he shows (and has shown for years) every single symptom of frontotemporal dementia.
…and your explanation is he gives speeched a lot and doesn’t know big words? Are you trying to get a job with the media sane-washing his absurd bullshit?
I can certainly see why people point to dementia, and given how dumb Trump is there’s little difference for practical purposes. But I have to lean on the explanation of general stupidity plus poor reading skills simply because his weirdest statements seem to occur when reading from a teleprompter, as opposed to media interviews and debates.
Look at the video you linked - almost every example is from him giving a teleprompter speech. Trump clearly doesn’t know big words like “rebuttal” “Venezuela” and “anonymous”. So when he sees it on a teleprompter he kinda has to sound it out in real time. Seriously, watch the video again but instead of Trump imagine the dumb kid from your second grade reading class doing a reading assignment. The Hannibal Lecter thing has been pretty well explained by Trump not understanding the difference between “asylum” in the immigration context and an “insane asylum” like the one Hannibal Lecter is in. Again, he’s just very, very unknowledgeable.
Yeah there’s some other stuff like the weird lean but that’s probably just explained by his weird obsession with height and some sort of lifts. Remember, when Trump got that terrible hair transplant, he was much younger. He’s never been functioning properly at a mental level.
They aren’t mutually exclusive, I think you’re describing Trump his entire adult life. The problem is he absolutely DOES have dementia and has for years.
As such the worse the dementia gets, the more he falls back on his “weave” and the more incoherent it is. This fits the dementia and how people fall back on what they know when their memory fails.
“I will tell you, he didn’t know the answer,” he told the crowd. “He said, ‘You know, nobody’s ever asked me that question.’”
Nobody’s ever asked that question before because it’s a stupid fucking question, not because you’re a genius you dumb fucking prick. The person you asked is trying to let you down easy.
See, I have ADHD so that’s kinda how I roll too. My mind goes off on tangents as I’m talking.
But crucially, I’m not trying to be the president of the USA.
Do you also have dementia? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6tfbBKKWmw
I deal with that as well, which is one of the reasons why I would never run for any office.
Well that and I don’t play well with others sometimes. I lack the patience and diplomacy one needs in politics.
The author gets to the crux near the end. Trump supporters don’t come to speeches for policy, they come for performance art. That’s what they expect from their leaders, because that’s what they’re trained to expect.
Between American entertainment trying to blur the lines between fantasy/ reality, and 24 hour news networks making everything a big deal the public at large has atrophied critical thinking skills.
Trump TRIES to rebrand. And we reject it and it’s unsuccessful…
“Formal Thought Disorder” is a facet of dementia.
How many of these boxes does trump tick where he fails?
Types and examples of disorganized speech
- Symbolism: pairing of thoughts with the correct meaning
- Tempo: the fluidity of words and conversation
- Processing: quality of thought content
- Continuity: direction of thought and conversation
Examples of specific types of disorganized speech may include:
- Paralogism: unusual word choice
- Verbal paraphasia: incorrect word usage
- Literal paraphasia: disordered sounds or sound sequence in words
- Neologism: creation of new words
- Displacement: citing a similar idea but not the correct one
- Contamination: fusing ideas into one another
- Accelerated thinking: rapid flow and increased volume of speech
- Flight of ideas: losing track of where a thought is going
- Inhibited thinking: slow processing of ideas
- Alogia: restricted speech and/or inadequate relay of information
- Circumstantial thinking: inability to determine essential information from unessential
- Desultory thinking: random topic jumps during conversation
- Derailment: sudden drop in train of thought
- Omission: inability to recall a main thought point
- Overinclusive thinking: conversation limits are never identified
- Echolalia: repetition of words or phrases
- Palilalia: fast repetition of words or phrases with decreasing audibility
- Thought blocking: Sudden gaps in thought for no obvious reason
- Verbigeration: nonsensical repetition of words
- Incoherence: complete speech disorganization; “word salad”
Here’s a great ad that builds on this comment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6tfbBKKWmw
I still find it amazing people believe the same constant child like lying.
Everyone says… A close friend of mine said… A professor said… Everyone knows…
…That I have the bestest (health/speech/IQ/humbleness/big hands)
He’s talking about his hair again.
Sorry grandpa, inventing words to appear cool again is maximum weird.
Hes lost it, even if he ever had it
Let me try this weave shit:
So I woke up, the sky is, opened my fridge, the best fridge, everybody, I got out bed, you know where you sleep, i have the best bed everyone knows that. Grabbed some blue sky with some clouds, big clouds because i got bacon, you know bacon, the best bacon like my pillow my pillow is great that cloud up there that bigly cloud that’s because of windmills, you don’t want windmills they’re killing bacon and like i said you know bacon it’s great i like it on my hamburgers you know hamburgers the best hamburgers have bacon but no windmills, it’s not going to raid because that windmill and that cloud they don’t mix they don’t the windmill takes all the wind and that’s why it’s hot out but there’s not global warming i use my blanket at night because it’s soo cold because of the bacon or the windmills yeah the windmills are why it’s cold they’re bad Kamala likes windmills and let me tell you how bad they are, they’re bad I know because I’m a very stable genius and the sky the sky it has another cloud you see that? do you do you see that? it’s because of Joe Biden that’s right it’s Sleepy Joe’s fault and let me tell you, Tesla and Elon great guy the best really smart guy not like Kamala no no not like her she wants to can you believe this can you? My bacon is getting cold it’s the evil democrats fault…
Yeah wow, it’s a lot harder than I thought, he must be some kind of genius… OR the dementia is getting worse, much worse.
A dude I’d gone to school with tracked me down and started stalking me. The first time he showed up at my door he talked just like that. Seemed he’s ended up on heavy drugs on the street and developed some severe psychosis.
Gotta say it was super weird reading that.
Yes that sounds like psychosis, schizoprenia, or just really fucking high
I sound like that when severely sleep deprived, like ive been awake for 5 days straight and am actively hallucinating levels of sleep deprivation. Mind you im usually actively trying to not do that but still.
Also I hallucinate porn for some fucking reason. How do I turn down the horny?
In psychological terms we call that tangentiality or a tangential affect. Where the subject starts on one topic, and then continually digresses to other loosely or unrelated topics. It’s a marker for mental illness.
Or we could just call it what it is, pulling it out of your ass.
It’s a brown weave
This is just the latest deflection from a man who knows he is entirely unfit for office. It’s pathetic that our politics has brought us to this place.
